'Rich Privilege'

Well, I see the riots in 2011 as an example of opting out. That was an example of a large number of people choosing not to respect ownership/property. It's easy to say that those people were "petty criminals", but what happens when the turn out for that kind of event is 30,000 rather than 3,000?

No they chose not to respect other peoples ownership/property.
They were criminals. They didn't trash their own stuff
 
Well, I see the riots in 2011 as an example of opting out. That was an example of a large number of people choosing not to respect ownership/property. It's easy to say that those people were "petty criminals", but what happens when the turn out for that kind of event is 30,000 rather than 3,000?

Tax-wise, I'm actually a net contributor, but if I put myself in a place of an unemployed 21 year old in a rough neighbourhood without much prospects. I can't see that there's a huge incentive for me to abide by the rules.

Rofl. Riots that lasted a few days and was nothing more than thugs having a go. It was not the wider population in the slightest.

Thankfully lots of people don't think like that, and improve their lives considerably compared to their parents.
The ones who actually think like, have terrible parents and unfortunately there's not a lot you can do for them.
 
No-one is trying to punish you for being successful. All mainstream parties agree on the principle that 'those with the broadest shoulders should bear the greatest burden'. That means those with the most income paying the most tax.

Someone earning £150,000 still earns significantly more than someone earning £75,000 after tax. Be thankful for what you have, rather than resentful for what you don't. You might not consider yourself to be rich. Many others would.
 
I hope you're aware that income tax is calculated on what you earn above that grade, not on your whole income.

E.g. 50k pay
everything below 40k is taxed at X%
the 10k above 40k is taxed at Y%

I'm astonished how many people don't realise this.
 
If we had had the 1950s police the riots would have been over much quicker. Besides 99% of those rioters going off on one to make a point were actually just out to destroy/steal something.
 
Its funny, because everything you write literally reads rich privilege. You think your amazing, critics are calling you 'a bad person' and made your very own Wah Wah thread.

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1. I didn't make this thread?

2. I am Amazing! It's the rest of the world that has a problem! :p

3. Parents are well off I'll admit however they worked Hard for what they have and made me do the same any help they've given me Financially they require me to pay back(I've signed contracts with deadlines and everything all very officious) from my own blood sweat and tears true they did this to make my life easier as I then don't have to deal with as much leagalise when it comes to the Mortgage etc... but they are making me earn my way laziness is not tolerated... as my brother found out earlier this year when he finally blew through what money he had and had his **** kicked back into the workforce!

4. I don't cry, I'm a man not some pansy girl or little boy who needs a cuddle everytime someone makes a disparaging comment aimed at me!
 
if I put myself in a place of an unemployed 21 year old in a rough neighbourhood without much prospects. I can't see that there's a huge incentive for me to abide by the rules.

What and you expect the hard working rich people to fund an attitude like that?

It's all ********. Work hard at school get a good education to college / University level and you can get a job. Squander your education and you will end up bottom of the heap.
 
I always moan about it but this "problem" has its roots in marxism. That evil old bat went on and on about class and that people are victims of their circumstances. This has since been drummed in to the British population via government education and state controlled media. As a result everyone hates capitalism and expects something for nothing. Labour are essentially all marxist communists anti-capitalists. They pretend like they are not but if they had their way they would nationalise pretty much everything they could. They don't appreciate that rich people worked hard for their money and that a lot of them were once poor.

The crazy thing about this attitude is that it rarely affects the super ultra rich old money and comes down on the new and growing upper middle class. Instead of celebrating that hard work of the middle class, the hard work of my parents and their parents. They instead paint the whole lot as "rich and undeserving" this is so they can justify stealing all their wealth and promising to hand it to people so that they can gain votes.

History shows though that wealth redistribution does not solve the problem of poverty permanently, all it does it distort incentives and in the long term leads to less social mobility and more poverty. Unfortunately trying to explain this to people that have had a life time of marxist conditioning is like speaking another language.
 
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That highlights their stupidity. No wonder they can't get jobs.

They were also claiming they live in poverty, whilst using the latest iPhones and having the latest nike trainers on...

....Paying for their Sky TV subsriptions and Netflix while complaining they don't have enough to feed their kids :p
 
The only thing more annoying than a bunch of toffs talking about how really hard the 'commonfolk' have it. Is the lazy benefit scum, who probably have only worked cash in hand jobs, complaining about how the rich have had their money just given to them.
 
Exactly this tbh.

Families should only be able to hold so much wealth and property.

Success should be earned - not given.

Hilarious. You don't see the inherent contradiction in that statement? so its wrong for a child to inherit money from his parents who worked hard for it, so that their child has to work less than they did and enjoy a better life. But its perfectly reasonable to steal money from the same hard working parents to hand it to people who they have never met who themselves have done nothing to earn it?

Why else do you think parents work hard? its so that they can make a better life for themselves and their families.
 
How much should they only be allowed to have and what happens to anything above that amount?
maximum amount of 100 million raising each year inline with inflation.

if you don't want to earn more money and give it to me then simply retire with your 200million and let someone else earn the money you would have been as you no longer need to hoard it.
any revenues will be distributed equally between anyone who has not hit the 200 million cap yet
It's ridiculous that some people have more wealth than their family trees would need in thousands of years but in reality there is probably no possible way of ensuring the 1% don't own a ridiculous percent of wealth.

it's not even the 1% anymore it's the 0.5% ?
 
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So why the bloody hell does the '99%' and the Labour government feel that I should be penalised for working hard? Why do they give off the impression that people who have enough money to pay taxes and inherit parental homes are super rich bankers that need to be punished with more taxes?

I will never vote Labour - any irresponsible party politician that leaves a message on a the treasury desk that states they have deliberately attempted to bankrupt the country to mess up the other party is never, ever, getting my vote - it is not the party they're ****ing up - it's the country, the nation and those they want to vote for them that are being screwed.

I still think that the politician in question should be put on trial.

It's all relative money.. and demonising the south to gain votes in the north is child's game and says nothing about their ability to run a country (see point above too).
 
maximum amount of 100 million raising each year inline with inflation.

if you don't want to earn more money and give it to me then simply retire with your 200million and let someone else earn the money you would have been as you no longer need to hoard it.
any revenues will be distributed equally between anyone who has not hit the 200 million cap yet
It's ridiculous that some people have more wealth than their family trees would need in thousands of years but in reality there is probably no possible way of ensuring the 1% don't own a ridiculous percent of wealth.

it's not even the 1% anymore it's the 0.5% ?

Utterly ill thought out.
Take elon musk, bill gates, most of the google people etc.
Without such people the world would be worse off, research in these areas wouldn't have been done for decades, they wouldn't have created thousands of jobs, they wouldn't boost the economy, which helps everyone in that society out.

There is an absolute need for such people.

But yeah nice way if stagnating civilisation, which leads to downfall for everyone.
 
Utterly ill thought out.
Take elon musk, bill gates, most of the google people etc.
Without such people the world would be worse off, research in these areas wouldn't have been done for decades, they wouldn't have created thousands of jobs, they wouldn't boost the economy, which helps everyone in that society out.

There is an absolute need for such people.

But yeah nice way if stagnating civilisation, which leads to downfall for everyone.
It wasn't serious and I plucked the 100 million figure from elon musk since it's roughly his total investment in tesla and space x if I remember right. (although that was obviously in dollars and a lot more than 100 million of them)
You have to allow people the opportunity to achieve great things that will benefit mankind.

elon musk types aren't the problem it's the ones that are never going to put the money to any use and it will never benefit anyone.
 
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