Government defeated over TV licence fee decriminalisation
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Soldato
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Yeah, because its only OK to feel annoyed at the poor quality of programming that we are obliged to pay for if you don't own a house and/or have kids?
Do you also sit up there on a mature home owning parental pedestal when you pay for goods and services and receive inferior goods and services in return?
Or do you do what 99.99% of people do when they get ripped off, and feel a teeny tiny weeny bit annoyed?
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Exactly, we don't need "BBC's answer to x-factor" etc. Why should we be funding the likes of this when there's enough of that already on the other channel?
The only leg it has to stand on is the educational remit. Unfortunately, as has been highlighted BBC4 is showing mostly repeats whilst key 'mainstream' educational programming such as Horizon have also taken a much more populist approach in recent years.
The BBC now produces enough successful 'exportable' programming (Top Gear especially) that I suspect it could go fully private.
The ratio of good to bad programming has been in decline for a couple of decades now. I'm now down to watching 3-4 shows a week, if that
Sunday Politics
Question Time
Top Gear
Sherlock (when it's on)
That's it i think
Oh and i do complain about the PC nut jobs in schools, they need to go in their and break the union/socialist grip on our schools
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Why do people assume the TVL just pays for TV programming?
And yes, a big percentage of the TVL does go to TV services and programming but removing or cutting the TVL (and/or BBC) would affect a lot more services (radio; R&D; online services; Youview; Freeview etc) than just what's shown on your telly-box.
The TV license isn't for only funding the BBC, these days some money goes to other channels too and it's technically for "receiving live TV broadcasts"
I still think it should be scrapped though, it costs a lot just to collect it so either pay it through general taxation or make it a subscription service. I doubt either will happen though.
I still think it should be scrapped though, it costs a lot just to collect it so either pay it through general taxation or make it a subscription service. I doubt either will happen though.
Shhhh don't tell anyone, but pretty much every government in the last 30+ years has hated the BBC's reporting a lot of the time(IIRC several ministers have actually threatened the BBC over it pointing out failings in Government policy repeatedly).
You're very naiive if you genuinely think that, the BBC is and always has been the UK Govt. Propaganda Channel, they were extremely blasé pushing UK Govt. agenda not long ago on the Syria issue when the Govt. wanted public backing to launch an 'open' attack, hell they even comically 'demonised' Assad by making him look like Hitler on the BBC News website, they do the same when anything to do with Israel or Saudi Arabia or the Royals comes up 'negatively' in the 'news', nothing but spin and Whitehall agenda.
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I would be happy if the BBC was closed down. I would pay money to support a cause that wants to close the BBC. I would like it to go private so that it could fail like a private company as would like to witness the end of the BBC in my life. The idea of having to pay a license fee to receive TV signals is ridiculous. Even if the BBC was amazing and full with great programs it would still be ridiculous to go around knocking on doors searching people houses for TVs.
That is some garbage. There is only one thing I've watched on that list. Most I've never heard of or have no interest in. What I have watched and it is usually funny. DIY SOS. Plus Julia Kendell used to be on it. She is so yummy. The Irish guy is a hoot as well.
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I watch some things on BBC, little but some things. I find their cbeebies children's programming excellent with regards my daughter, it is varied, and detailed, with good annunciation unlike the spaxtax ppp channels and such like which are American trash with little in the way of educational programming.
BBC radio is varied and superb with the exception of radio1 and its newsbeat for whom the target audience is unfortunately those with an IQ lower than their shoe size, even if their actual audience is closer to 10% or more of the population. Radio 2 is in general excellent entertainment, with 5live, radio6 and radio4 all fulfilling useful slots.
BBC news I find reasonable, local news more so than national news.
QI, would I lie to you, mock the week, and the various science presentations and nature work tends to be good. Their filler content is indeed dross, but I work, and as such I am glad that crap is on during the day when it is cheap easy to make rubbish that doesn't eat up the budget. I like strictly and I like the voice, as they are still about those taking part rather than watching the judges antics 85% of the time (xfactor). Silent witness, the fall, luthor and various other BBC dramas have proven to be excellent and they continue to make reasonably quality entertainment.
I don't mind paying the licence fee.
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In the last week I have watched Top gear and Silent witness, thats it for the BBC, I want a refund!!!!1
I don't... However he's complaining about the TV licence yet says he doesn't watch live TV. Ergo he doesn't need to pay for it, even if he uses the other services.