It's still a pretty crap buy. 2GB isn't going to be enough for 1080p for much longer; can say that with supreme confidence.
I'm really hoping the 370 is a 4GB card, and not another 960 failure. If not, 380X here I come. My wallet is ready.
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AMD: Future GPUs will significantly boost performance in 4K resolutions
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It's still a pretty crap buy. 2GB isn't going to be enough for 1080p for much longer; can say that with supreme confidence.
I'm really hoping the 370 is a 4GB card, and not another 960 failure. If not, 380X here I come. My wallet is ready.
What would you get instead, for £150? 280?
Gregster in buying an AMD card shocker?
If the reported bench scores are true and I can get an 8GB variant for the the usual AMD prices, count me in for a couple.
Wont happen
Why is that?
I bought a 2nd hand 280X for £110 as a stop-gap.
because your a raging nvidia fanboi
I guess that is the way I am perceived but I am ready for an upgrade and my overtime account is stocking up nicely. My last AMD card was a 6970 and I didn't have a good time of it at all but I don't hold a grudge and will happily give them another try.
Good stuff. I'm getting one, Kaap made a good point somewhere, that the new AMD cards are the start of a new generation of GPUs, the Titan II will be the last of the current generation of GPUs.
I just hope AMD don't screw the drivers up on release.
i used amd always untill the 970 sli and i still feel its a shame about the 3.5gb as they would have lasted me untill my next pc rebuild in a couple of years, but sure i wont rule out a titran 2 if the performance is there
Good stuff. I'm getting one, Kaap made a good point somewhere, that the new AMD cards are the start of a new generation of GPUs, the Titan II will be the last of the current generation of GPUs.
I just hope AMD don't screw the drivers up on release.
I am quite interested in HBM and how that will work and having a first hand play at it. It can stack between 4 and 8 times, so 8GB is a given really. I am sure there will be some bugs to start but I can handle that.
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That's what I want to see, an 8GB flagship, more grunt, a decent amount of vram to stop any drops or stutters.
This really is taking to long though, hurry up and launch it already !
I hear it will come with a freon-based cooling system.
Gregster with an AMD card? I won't hold my breath
You shouldn't hold your breath with the speed AMD release things.... We would all be dead
Overall, the 980 is a nice upgrade for those who were/are on nVidia 6 series or amd 7970 or below but for the rest of us, I didn't feel it warranted jumping on. Hopefully there is some substance in the "supposed" leaked benches and if so, I am on it. Needs to be 8GB mind but that shouldn't be a problem with HBM.
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This simply isn't correct. You're talking about the actual number of memory chips per stack. To start with we have two known HBM specs
HBM1.0 4hi stacks(4 chips max) 1Gb(256MB) chips, 1GB stacks with 128GB/s @ 1Ghz.
HBM 2.0 4-8hi stacks, 1-4Gb chips(256 to 1024MB), 1-8GB stacks with 256GB/s @ 2Ghz(clock speed might be wrong there).
More stacks per interposer = lower yield = higher cost. What the realistic limit is no one knows, what the price of one stack is, no one really knows, what spec of chip will be available, no one really knows. The realistic minimum based on the minimum specs of HBM are 4 stacks of 1GB giving 4GB @ 512GB/s. The reality is any one of the 'upgrades' listed in HBM 2.0 can be done before HBM2.0 is scheduled. That is just a target list of updates. A 4 hi stack using 2GB still at 128GB/s would only meet the HBM1.0 specs, doesn't mean it won't be made.
Effectively HBM could have been produced some time ago, 2Gb chips(needed to get 2GB per stack) have been available for quite some time. It's more than possible we will get 2GB per stack. It's less likely but still possible we'll get more than 4 stacks on a interposer, depends on costs.
Again simple reality is that the majority of sales of any card at any level right now goes to gamers who don't have 4k screens. If only 3-4% of sales go to people with 4k screens, do the 96-97% of the rest want to spend more on a 8GB version over a 4GB version? Answer is, not really.
What we'd hopefully see is a 4GB version sensibly priced and if/when higher density stacks become available they can offer a more expensive 8GB version for those who need them. If they are available at launch, great, if they have to wait for those chips to be available, that is how it is. AMD can't magically provide something not being produced. The alternative way to make sure of 8GB is to have 8 stacks and 8GB on every card, which for most people will just be poor value. It will increase the cost quite a bit beyond the actual price of 4 more stacks(due to the yield issue).
Think of it like this, AMD could not offer a 40-50% faster card with HBM this year and lose sales while waiting for 14nm and higher density HBM. Or they can offer a card that only has 4GB, which even incredibly conservatively stated, all 80% of the market needs, and take sales with that much faster card. Then offer an 8GB next gen card at the same time anyway. They can't lose out compared to what they offer today, by only offering a 4GB version.