Suicide mission to Mars

I sincerely hope this mission never goes ahead. Would be a tragic loss of life, for no reason.

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Colonising another planet is far from no reason.
And who says they'll die.

Some of the opinions in here really are shocking.
It's amazing that with such opinions, we've made it as far as we have.
Exploration, new experiences and taking risk is essential to humans.
 
I personally dont see the desire to be the "first", its no less obnoxious than on the internet or any other social persuit.

The moon is far more important for current plans right now, if perhaps we can succeed at a sustainable base, then we can move out. Sending people on a voyage of maddening loneliness is a sure fire way to turn everyone else off.
 
I personally dont see the desire to be the "first", its no less obnoxious than on the internet or any other social persuit.

The moon is far more important for current plans right now, if perhaps we can succeed at a sustainable base, then we can move out. Sending people on a voyage of maddening loneliness is a sure fire way to turn everyone else off.

Imo moon base now (well by 2024 when sis is scrapped), while we prepare for mars. both are very important and some but by no means all technology can be tested on the moon. Lets get a green house up on the moon with robotic handlers. Lets gather water laden regolith and convert to fuel.

Should scrap the ISS, sooner the better.

Disagree on the maddening loneliness though, as the population would grow with time and plenty of people are very suited to isolation live. Not everyone craves loads of human contact. It's a matter of psychological profiling the first inhabitants, as it grows you start changing the profile of new colonists.
 
My thoughts exactly.

There's a lot of existing tech around, and there's a lot of tech coming on line very soon.
Mars one would likely use SpaceX falcon heavy(first flight this year) as the launcher and a modified dragon v2(flying by 2017, first tests this year) as the capsule.
There's also things like Bigelow inflatable habitats(alreafy tested twice in space, and another one due to be attached to the ISS this year) that would make a very good transport ship for going to mars.

As for rovers and a lot of other smaller things, nasa and private companies have been designing, building and testing things for decades.

It's more a matter of getting funding. Than technical, that's not to say it's not extremely hard.

I doubt mars open will get the funding, however it does serve a purpose, it raises public interest.

I think a joint international government and private company coalition is more likely to be first, but they won't achieve it as fast as they will need return capability even if it's not their main goal (spaceX)

Oh and mars one have already gone to several key suppliers to do a feasibility study, results of which as well as a actual substantial plan, Mars One are hoping to publicly release later this year.
 
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JFKs famous speech asked that we send a man to the moon and return him safely to the earth. The seconds part is what made apollo 11 so utterly incredible. Had that been a suicide mission for me it would have been a failure for mankind.

I see a one way ticket as a failure, if we are unable to at least try and survive the trip then we are are not ready to do it. Send a Honda robot...

I think most of the people signing up for this are probably unhappy with their life in some way. I can understand calculated risk but I cannot understand anyone giving up their life a no matter how passionate you are about space. Maybe it's because I'm married but the idea is just utterly horrifying to me.
 
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JFKs famous speech asked that we of send a man to the moon and return him safely to the earth. The seconds part is what made apollo 11 so utterly incredible. Had that been a suicide mission for me it would have been a failure for mankind.

I see a one way ticket as a failure, if we are unable to at least try and survive the trip then we are are not ready to do it. Send a Honda robot...

I think most of the people signing up for this are probably unhappy with their life in some way. I can understand calculated risk but I cannot understand anyone giving up their life like as a guinee pig no matter how passionate you are about space. Maybe it's because I'm married but the idea is just utterly horrifying to me.

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They are intending to survive the trip, it in no way can be described as a suicide mission.
It's lucky that people are different some people very much have an exploration gene.
Do you call people who climb mountains, do extreme sports etc the same?
 
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They are intending to survive the trip, it in no way can be described as a suicide mission.
It's lucky that people are different some people very much have an exploration gene.
Do you call people who climb mountains, do extreme sports etc the same?

They won't be coming back
 
They won't be coming back

Utter logic fail.
How is not coming back suicide?
If you move to America and never come back to the UK, have you committed suicide?
What an utterly bizarre comment.

This isn't land. Wait for oxygen to tuna out and die.

This is land and slowly colonise mars, using institute resources.
There's water, there's CO2, there's minerals and metals. There's everything we need there.
Just a couple of feet of mars soil, blocks radiation. Which is also the plan, you Burry you're living quarters in a few feet.
 
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They are intending to survive the trip, it in no way can be described as a suicide mission.
It's lucky that people are different some people very much have an exploration gene.
Do you call people who climb mountains, do extreme sports etc the same?

No, read my post again....I said calculated risk is different to knowing when you go into something it will kill you for sure. Nobody ever climbed Everest with the intention of staying at the top to die.

68 days is the maximum time they can live once arriving, how is it not suicide?
 
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No, read my post again....I said calculated risk is different to knowing when you go into something it will kill you for sure. Nobody ever climbed Everest with the intention of staying at the top to die.

Oh god, there is no intention to kill them.

I think you need to get a clue if the plan.

Would planning to build living habitat, gather resources and live till natural death at the top of Everest a suicide?

It's clear you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
 
No it's not 68 days, where did you pluck that number from.
It's until they die of natural causes. With mire colonists coming every few years, with more supplies and building up a colony.

http://www.mars-one.com/

It was plucked from the MIT study which you can find all over the web. It was also duscussed on BBC breakfast news last year when they had some candidates on the program. They seemed fully aware they would not survive much more than a couple of months with they supplies they would have.
 
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