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Legend said:
It's a sorry state of affairs if you have to spend over £1000 on a pair of discontinued GPU's when nothing you can buy new in the current market will provide you with a guaranteed stutter free gaming experience. What a shameful period in gaming history we live in. Might as well sell everything and get a console. :mad:
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This is why I own both consoles as well as a gaming rig, Sometimes it's just nice to sit back, Throw on a game and know it works, Yeah sure I'm not getting amazing res or FPS but they are more or less well optimized for the given platform, For the most part :p
 
Legend said:
It's a sorry state of affairs if you have to spend over £1000 on a pair of discontinued GPU's when nothing you can buy new in the current market will provide you with a guaranteed stutter free gaming experience. What a shameful period in gaming history we live in. Might as well sell everything and get a console. :mad:
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That's only in Kaaps opinion but he does have the hardware to test so it comes from an informed point of view. Hardocp were one of the sites on Amds back about stutter in crossfire. They now say that gtx980 maxwell sli is a step up in smoothness from gk110 kepler cards but Amds 290x xdma crossfire is better again. They state that Nvidia are now the ones playing catch up in this department. Either way I bet the experience on any of these setups is pretty darn good.
 
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Legend said:
It's a sorry state of affairs if you have to spend over £1000 on a pair of discontinued GPU's when nothing you can buy new in the current market will provide you with a guaranteed stutter free gaming experience. What a shameful period in gaming history we live in. Might as well sell everything and get a console. :mad:
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A console cannot max BF4 and get 21.5 million pixels on screen like my Titans and still run very smooth.:D

The Titans were a one off and I suspect that NVidia will not be able to do the same with the Maxwell Titans.:)
 
Kaapstad said:
A console cannot max BF4 and get 21.5 million pixels on screen like my Titans and still run very smooth.:D

The Titans were a one off and I suspect that NVidia will not be able to do the same with the Maxwell Titans.:)
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But it would be pretty awesome if you're wrong, I mean that in the nicest way possibly BTW because imagine if they are exactly like the previous Titan/Titan Black, This could actually sway me to move to a Titan setup :)
 
Dicehunter said:
This is why I own both consoles as well as a gaming rig, Sometimes it's just nice to sit back, Throw on a game and know it works, Yeah sure I'm not getting amazing res or FPS but they are more or less well optimized for the given platform, For the most part :p
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+1

Same here, have given up on Dying Light on PC, it's just a mess lol. AMD don't have an optimized driver, but I'm not sure a driver could fix it anyway. It seems to want a GPU from about 5 years in the future to run it :p

So in the meantime I'm playing it on the PS4, it looks gorgeous and runs really well to, which is odd because that's AMD as well..

Consoles definitely have their place, so does PC. When a game is well optimized on PC it's awesome. Best way to play, but new games seem to suffer more and more on PC now though..
 
Boomstick777 said:
+1

Same here, have given up on Dying Light on PC, it's just a mess lol. AMD don't have an optimized driver, but I'm not sure a driver could fix it anyway. It seems to want a GPU from about 5 years in the future to run it :p

So in the meantime I'm playing it on the PS4, it looks gorgeous and runs really well to, which is odd because that's AMD as well..

Consoles definitely have their place, so does PC. When a game is well optimized on PC it's awesome. Best way to play, but new games seem to suffer more and more on PC now though..
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I think it's mainly down to devs not being bothered about PC, From a working standpoint it's far easier and a whole lot less of a pain in the backside to optimize for 1 platform that literally millions of people have rather than trying to optimize for a plethora of different hardware configs.

We all know it's possible from the very well optimized games like Alien Isolation that doesn't just look gorgeous but runs like a dream even at 4K with 1 card but games like that are a 1 off that don't come along very often sadly.

Yes we could just go the brute force method and get 4 way GPU setups but I personally don't know many people who like running more than 1 card and not just because of financial restraints but aesthetics, SLI/Crossfire problems, General pains in the butt etc...
 
Dicehunter said:
But it would be pretty awesome if you're wrong, I mean that in the nicest way possibly BTW because imagine if they are exactly like the previous Titan/Titan Black, This could actually sway me to move to a Titan setup :)
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Me too, because it only needs to be like a really powerful 970 and that's it.

we cant tell for sure until we see the 380X, but if it is a rebranded 290X it wont be good enough.
 
Dicehunter said:
I think it's mainly down to devs not being bothered about PC, From a working standpoint it's far easier and a whole lot less of a pain in the backside to optimize for 1 platform that literally millions of people have rather than trying to optimize for a plethora of different hardware configs.

We all know it's possible from the very well optimized games like Alien Isolation that doesn't just look gorgeous but runs like a dream even at 4K with 1 card but games like that are a 1 off that don't come along very often sadly.

Yes we could just go the brute force method and get 4 way GPU setups but I personally don't know many people who like running more than 1 card and not just because of financial restraints but aesthetics, SLI/Crossfire problems, General pains in the butt etc...
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I use 4 way setups for gaming but not just for raw power as that is pointless, it is visually better as 4 cards greatly reduce things like screen tearing. Using a single card I find not nice as there is too much tearing and stuttering.

I think game devs will optimise better for the PC in the next few years as the new next gen consoles are fixed in what they can do where as PCs will continue to evolve and leave the consoles behind.
 
SLI deffo isn't as user friendly as a single card, one massive single card would be far better.

you only have to remember how bad ``Evil Within`` was on release day, to realise that game developers dont give a damn about PC Gaming.
 
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Mal X said:
Me too, because it only needs to be like a really powerful 970 and that's it.

we cant tell for sure until we see the 380X, but if it is a rebranded 290X it wont be good enough.
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It won't be a rebranded 290X as they could have done that last year.:)
 
Kaapstad said:
I use 4 way setups for gaming but not just for raw power as that is pointless, it is visually better as 4 cards greatly reduce things like screen tearing. Using a single card I find not nice as there is too much tearing and stuttering.

I think game devs will optimise better for the PC in the next few years as the new next gen consoles are fixed in what they can do where as PCs will continue to evolve and leave the consoles behind.
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Lets be honest though Kaap, You are part of an extremely small customer install base, Most go the single card route because ease of use, Doesn't draw a huge amount of power, Less heat, Less noise, Less multi GPU config problems, Looks tidier and if you are not a GPU collector and like to sell off your old stuff it's far easier to get shut of 1 rather than 3 or 4, I myself do not like older hardware lying around.
 
I think if they expect PC gamers to buy games at £30+ at launch, they could at least make sure they work.

Dying Light works ok for the first indoor section, the sort of more linear part of the game. Once you get outside and open things up it's awful. Even on 'performance' setting. The game is effectively broken.

When you consider a 4770K + 16GB 2400mhz ram and 290X is fairly high end, the fact that the game doesn't work is pretty bad..

If anything it just puts you off buying games on PC. Considering consoles now share PC x86 architecture, you would think games would become easier to develop cross platform not worse..

Meh..

I'll just have to throw a behemoth GPU at it (maybe that's what they want lol).. Plz don't let Nvidia's new card be fastest :p
 
Boomstick777 said:
I think if they expect PC gamers to buy games at £30+ at launch, they could at least make sure they work.

Dying Light works ok for the first indoor section, the sort of more linear part of the game. Once you get outside and open things up it's awful. Even on 'performance' setting. The game is effectively broken.

When you consider a 4770K + 16GB 2400mhz ram and 290X is fairly high end, the fact that the game doesn't work is pretty bad..

If anything it just puts you off buying games on PC. Considering consoles now share PC x86 architecture, you would think games would become easier to develop cross platform not worse..

Meh..

I'll just have to throw a behemoth GPU at it (maybe that's what they want lol).. Plz don't let Nvidia's new card be fastest :p
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To be honest dude I think the bad performance is down to Nvidias implementations, I tried this on a 290X and then on my 980, The perf increase was significant on the 980 which to me just says 1 thing, AMD is being gimped, Not forgetting to mention AMD haven't even let out a game ready driver :(
 
Dicehunter said:
Lets be honest though Kaap, You are part of an extremely small customer install base, Most go the single card route because ease of use, Doesn't draw a huge amount of power, Less heat, Less noise, Less multi GPU config problems, Looks tidier and if you are not a GPU collector and like to sell off your old stuff it's far easier to get shut of 1 rather than 3 or 4, I myself do not like older hardware lying around.
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This is true but in the next couple of years PCs and GPUs will get faster but consoles will still be fixed.
 
Boomstick777 said:
I think if they expect PC gamers to buy games at £30+ at launch, they could at least make sure they work.

Dying Light works ok for the first indoor section, the sort of more linear part of the game. Once you get outside and open things up it's awful. Even on 'performance' setting. The game is effectively broken.

When you consider a 4770K + 16GB 2400mhz ram and 290X is fairly high end, the fact that the game doesn't work is pretty bad..

If anything it just puts you off buying games on PC. Considering consoles now share PC x86 architecture, you would think games would become easier to develop cross platform not worse..

Meh..

I'll just have to throw a behemoth GPU at it (maybe that's what they want lol).. Plz don't let Nvidia's new card be fastest :p
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Dying Light runs perfect :eek:.............dont you mean Evil Within, because yes that really is a rubbish game, that's the worst console port ever.......30 fps..........black bars all around it.....menu totally off the screen.... dreadful crashes......miles worst than Far Cry 4
 
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