Should stoned driving be legal?

I'm not going to argue that stoned driving should be legal, but they set a limit for alcohol; they should do the same for cannabis.

This is just another poor quality string in the bow of a government who is failing in their "war on drugs." While we apparently attempt to clamp down on the drug use (it's never going to work), Americans are actually reading evidence and allowing people to not only get high, but to treat their medical conditions.

It's absurd that cannabis is still treated in the way it is. Most potheads are highly functional members of society.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
I'm not going to argue that stoned driving should be legal, but they set a limit for alcohol; they should do the same for cannabis.
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for that they would need to quantify how much thc in your system would cause you to be 'over the limit',
i dont think its possable for them to determine that so it might just come down to a black & white rule, any thc detection = Ban
which in alcohol terms would be the same as them treating someone who's had half a shandy with the same punnishment as someone thats well over the legal limit
 
I can understand what you're saying, but it's certainly not clear with alcohol either. There are so many factors that can influence how drunk you feel. Some night I can drink 6 pints and feel fairly drunk, and then the other night I had two glasses of wine and I felt the same as I would have done after the 6 pints...

I really don't have a solution, but being stoned while driving doesn't ruin your ability to drive in the way that alcohol does.
 
I'm sure our resident bobby will have a say but I thought it was illegal if your driving is impaired by drink or drugs.

Drugs being. Coke as much as drugs being sleeping pills
 
mattyg said:
I'm sure our resident bobby will have a say but I thought it was illegal if your driving is impaired by drink or drugs.

Drugs being. Coke as much as drugs being sleeping pills
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It is but now it will get its own special piece of legislation (which only apply to illegal drugs of course).

Much like how driving whilst using your mobile was always illegal under 'driving without due care or attention' but they felt the need to make it a crime in its own right (with more severe punishments).
 
dirtychinchilla said:
I can understand what you're saying, but it's certainly not clear with alcohol either. There are so many factors that can influence how drunk you feel. Some night I can drink 6 pints and feel fairly drunk, and then the other night I had two glasses of wine and I felt the same as I would have done after the 6 pints..
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but there your talking about how drunk you feel, not how many mg of alcohol you have in your blood or a reading you might give on a breathalyzer
 
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id be surprised if no one was working on a sweet/tablet that neutralized thc in saliva, must be possable, and highly* profitable
*excuse the pun :D
 
I think impaired driving should be illegal but that doesn't always include someone who's smoked a spliff...

You cant treat weed like alcohol. The thing is being heavily drunk makes people lose their inhibitions and messes with their judgement, where even if the person knows they cant drive a vehicle they will drive it. It is this loss of judgement which creates a chain reaction of "bad judgement" events which all leads to an ultimate accident.

Yeah you can stone a guy to death with weed and make him drive a car, but did they even ask him if he would continue driving while that stoned or if he would rather stop and stare at a wall or some birds?

Weed doesn't affect your judgement in the same way alcohol does. And judgement plays a key role because you would make hundreds of decisions while drunk before ultimately crashing. I can easily recall great judgement calls I've made while under the influence of weed. I don't think I could ever think of a single one for drink.


Another thing people don't understand about highly experienced weed smokers is that they can smoke a mammoth joint and it simply will not impair them at all. It all depends on the situation and the type of weed they're smoking.
 
asim18 said:
I think impaired driving should be illegal but that doesn't always include someone who's smoked a spliff...

You cant treat weed like alcohol. The thing is being heavily drunk makes people lose their inhibitions and messes with their judgement, where even if the person knows they cant drive a vehicle they will drive it. It is this loss of judgement which creates a chain reaction of "bad judgement" events which all leads to an ultimate accident.

Yeah you can stone a guy to death with weed and make him drive a car, but did they even ask him if he would continue driving while that stoned or if he would rather stop and stare at a wall or some birds?

Weed doesn't affect your judgement in the same way alcohol does. And judgement plays a key role because you would make hundreds of decisions while drunk before ultimately crashing. I can easily recall great judgement calls I've made while under the influence of weed. I don't think I could ever think of a single one for drink.


Another thing people don't understand about highly experienced weed smokers is that they can smoke a mammoth joint and it simply will not impair them at all. It all depends on the situation and the type of weed they're smoking.
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That's not addressing the technicality of the argument though, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would agree with driving whilst impaired for any reason.

The difficulty with something like this is that someone may consume some THC and then get banned from driving a month later, clearly having a puff on a funny cig will not intoxicate you for a month, so a line will need to be drawn somewhere.
 
asim18 said:
Another thing people don't understand about highly experienced weed smokers is that they can smoke a mammoth joint and it simply will not impair them at all. It all depends on the situation and the type of weed they're smoking.
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this statement can only be made by a heavy weed smoker who THINKS it doesn't impair him....
 
Smokey Deza said:
Weed makes you paranoid so you drive more carefully when on the roads.
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mattyg said:
Or more reckless because everyone is out to get you.

Next daft argument
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He's absolutely right though :p.

You have one understanding of paranoia. Weed related paranoia is different though.

Long term paranoia induced by weed doesn't make people think random people are out to get you. This isn't an acid trip mate where random are pulling out mac-10s. Weed induced paranoia affects relationships with close people, it involves the person thinking loved ones and friend groups do things behind their backs for a very simple example.


The paranoia Smokey Deza is talking about is short term paranoia. It the feeling of constantly being aware that you've smoked a spliff and are high therefore being extra careful with things you need to be careful with. The thing is people get so paranoid about the smoothness of their driving that they end up driving much better when they are in this specific state.
 
If it makes them a better driver then yes if it doesn't as I suspect then no.

I used to have a friend who wrote off her car stoned off her face. The other driver never even had a chance to react from the sound of it.
 
Will21st said:
this statement can only be made by a heavy weed smoker who THINKS it doesn't impair him....
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Nonsense. A heavy weed smoker will know exactly how high he is.

I know that certain types of weed actually improve concentration levels remarkably. It makes you concentrate on what you need to concentrate on. I can play some mediocre frames of snooker while not high and find that I can play twice as better after a spliff simply due to the increased concentration.
 
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