Should stoned driving be legal?

Good grief, I'm going to have to quote myself as everyone else seems to be talking horse crap.

That's not addressing the technicality of the argument though, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would agree with driving whilst impaired for any reason.

The difficulty with something like this is that someone may consume some THC and then get banned from driving a month later, clearly having a puff on a funny cig will not intoxicate you for a month, so a line will need to be drawn somewhere.
 
Nonsense. A heavy weed smoker will know exactly how high he is.

I know that certain types of weed actually improve concentration levels remarkably. It makes you concentrate on what you need to concentrate on. I can play some mediocre frames of snooker while not high and find that I can play twice as better after a spliff simply due to the increased concentration.

keep on digging. ;)
 
Nonsense. A heavy weed smoker will know exactly how high he is.

I know that certain types of weed actually improve concentration levels remarkably. It makes you concentrate on what you need to concentrate on. I can play some mediocre frames of snooker while not high and find that I can play twice as better after a spliff simply due to the increased concentration.

A heavy weed smoker will also not make the best decisions either.

Also the kind of singular concentration you typically get whilst stoned isn't conducive to driving as you need to be aware of your surroundings and other road users rather than specifically focused on one specific aspect of driving.
 
Good grief, I'm going to have to quote myself as everyone else seems to be talking horse crap.

Good point but being as it is illegal to smoke it anyway I suspect that consideration is not going to impact the governments decision making on this...the line has been drawn at zero tolerance, regardless of the immediate impairment, if you test positive then you have taken an illegal substance is probably where they are going.
 
you only get so high and then the high just lasts longer.
It's not like you can get off your head and completely out of it

Driving while you're really high is just not a good Idea, full stop. Put differently I would how a driver can take full responsibility for their actions if something does happen. Could you?

If I had used and was involved in a little fender bender or something more serious I would always be wondering if that had happened if I was wasn't intoxicated, but that's just me.
 
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A heavy weed smoker will also not make the best decisions either.

Also the kind of singular concentration you typically get whilst stoned isn't conducive to driving as you need to be aware of your surroundings and other road users rather than specifically focused on one specific aspect of driving.

people everyday dont make the best decisions either under the influence or not.

totally agree with asim on the concentration subject...

after my dad died i smoked weed quiet a bit.. and i noticed myself concentration a lot more when gaming (competitively) and i still played as good if not better after a few biftas :) i have however stopped now due to not wanting to go down the same path as my dad who was a heavy smoker and drinker..

i don't drive so cant comment on that side.. but however i went on a 2500 mile road trip from Torquay > Amsterdam > Arnhem Bridge > Frankfurt > Munich > Amsterdam > Torquay with a very heavy weed smoker (20 years of smoking) and he is one of the best drivers I've ever got in a car with...

like said previously weed effects everyone differently.
 
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One of my friends tried to walk into a canal after having only one fairly small spliff. So, I think putting her behind the wheel of a car in that state might not be the best idea :p

It seems to affect different people in different ways - I can't say it's ever really affected me at all, but then I've never smoked a more than a joint at parties etc.
 
people everyday dont make the best decisions either under the influence or not.

Which is why we have laws such as driving without due care and so on.

totally agree with asim on the concentration subject...

after my dad died i smoked weed quiet a bit.. and i noticed myself concentration a lot more when gaming (competitively) and i still played as good if not better after a few biftas :) i have however stopped now due to not wanting to go down the same path as my dad who was a heavy smoker and drinker..

i don't drive so cant comment on that side.. but however i went on a 2500 mile road trip from Torquay > Amsterdam > Arnhem Bridge > Frankfurt > Munich > Amsterdam > Torquay with a very heavy weed smoker (20 years of smoking) and he is one of the best drivers I've ever got in a car with...

like said previously weed effects everyone differently.

I play pool far better after a few sherbets, doesn't mean I should be driving though.
 
So is it really 'fair' that someone who's smoked a joint can get a 12 month ban and £5,000 fine when someone who's taken painkillers will likely face no criminal charges despite science showing the latter is more likely to result in an accident?

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He's absolutely right though :p.

You have one understanding of paranoia. Weed related paranoia is different though.

Long term paranoia induced by weed doesn't make people think random people are out to get you. This isn't an acid trip mate where random are pulling out mac-10s. Weed induced paranoia affects relationships with close people, it involves the person thinking loved ones and friend groups do things behind their backs for a very simple example.


The paranoia Smokey Deza is talking about is short term paranoia. It the feeling of constantly being aware that you've smoked a spliff and are high therefore being extra careful with things you need to be careful with. The thing is people get so paranoid about the smoothness of their driving that they end up driving much better when they are in this specific state.


I agree 100% and that's from my own experience and other peoples :rolleyes:
 
Great right? Well maybe not. According to this report, consuming the old May Jane has no effect on driving skills...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/

Well done on that FANTASTIC bit of research. Did you even reach the end of the article or do any associated reading?

The study the report is based on, linked in the first sentence, even has this bit of awesomeness:

Many drugs have been shown to impair driving related skills in laboratory dosing studies. Simulator studies, and closed-course driving studies employing psychomotor tasks like vigilance, reaction time, divided attention tasks, cognitive and executive functions, car following, lane keeping, speed control, and emergency maneuvers have shown reductions in driving-related functions due to drug effects.

Not to mention the other study that's linked that backs up this very fact.

You've misinterpreted the very studies and reports your using to back up your argument so you haven't got a leg to stand on.

In what world do you live where you've looked at a person that's stoned/high and thought "wow, they'd make a great driver!" unless you were completely stoned yourself.

So, is it fair that some stupid **** can take an illegal drug and put the lives of my family at risk without any risk of serious repercussions - no, it's ****ing not.

weed is illegal and therefore if they can't catch you smoking it they want another way to screw you over.

Get a ****ing job. How do I block someone? Vote ban.
 
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