How did Tony Blair invade Iraq?

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Serious question: how? Nearly everything he said was absolute rubbish.

This video, made in February 2003, had lots of skeptical people. Even then people thought he was talking rubbish. How did he do it?


I literally do not understand.
 
he fooled us, he is a war criminal, and he is dreading the day Bush Snr Dies, because he alone is being protected, Blairs protection by the Queen is not enough to hold out till he dies.
 
blair and bush created ISIS
they popped up in iraq as jihadists coming to fight the infidels.

They didn't form in syria like most people assume

I doubt history will remember him well and I believe he has no idea that so many people dislike him, it's like he's in his own little world
 
Blair and Bush did not create ISIS. The power vacuum left by the topple of a regime and the blissful ignorance of many nations allowed the formation of ISIS. If it didn't happen due to those events it would have happened sooner or later though.
 
dowie said:
yeah the invasion was dubious

but 'war criminal' LOL
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In a democracy, one should hold the highest command first for responsibility (not the queen, shes hardly a commander).

Regardless, on the topic of the thread, Bush and Blair i can hardly see that they have the capacity to run such a ruse, after all the first hand information came from insiders of the Hussein regime and agents in the field, which considering the CIA's new structure after 9/11...i would imagine they could fabricate anything and if the US senate is on board, the UK parliament was only a few smacks in the head away from being on board as well.

We will ultimately have to wait for more leaks or years for this to finally come out and for no one to care since it would be so irrelevant.
 
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arknor said:
as in ISIS would not have happened without the second IRAQ war.
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maybe it would maybe it wouldn't... maybe there would have been an Arab spring type uprising in Iraq regardless (actually quite likely given the Shia majority and proximity to Iran and past form for uprisings)

sure the invasion combined with the subsequent reluctance of the current Iraqi govt to be more inclusive of the sunni minority have brought about conditions where a radical sunni group can prosper - though that is a far cry from stating that they created ISIS

their actions contributed towards part of the conditions that have allowed ISIS to emerge
 
ISIS may not have formed without the Iraq invasion but some other similar group would have because the dictatorships in the Middle East are inherently unstable.
 
Mr Gimp said:
Blair and Bush did not create ISIS. The power vacuum left by the topple of a regime and the blissful ignorance of many nations allowed the formation of ISIS. If it didn't happen due to those events it would have happened sooner or later though.
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The Islamic State of Iraq (ISI; Arabic: دولة العراق الإسلامية‎ Dawlat al-ʿIrāq al-ʾIslāmiyyah) was a Sunni Islamic group that aimed to establish an Islamic state in Sunni, Arab-majority areas of Iraq. It was formed on 15 October 2006 from the merger of a number Iraqi insurgent groups, including Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn—‘Al-Qaeda in Iraq’—and its Mujahideen Shura Council allies.
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Let's face it the insurgent groups that formed isis would not have been iraqi insurgents if there was no war against the west to fight there.

They weren't around fighting saddam before the west came and they spread to syria from iraq
 
arknor said:
Let's face it the insurgent groups that formed isis would not have been iraqi insurgents if there was no war against the west to fight there.
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you don't know that - what if a Saddam had been overthrown regardless and a Shia govt taken control - it would be pretty likely you'd see the same sunni insurgent groups

and again it still doesn't mean you can claim Bush and Blair created ISIS, just that they contributed to the current conditions that have allowed ISIS to emerge
 
I'll admit that I was a moron and believed Blair when he said that Saddam was developing WMD, I naively thought that there was no way they'd lie about this because if it turned out that there were no WMD in Iraq then Blair would have to had resigned immediately! The thing that really freaks my nut though is that Tony Blair is actually still popular outside of the UK - look at how much money he makes working for foreign governments and the "third sector". I'd like it very much to see him put on trial in this country for something - if going this country to war on a false pretence isn't a crime it damn well should be.
 
I believed too, Scorza. I was at an age where I still thought our government had our best interests at heart. It certainly opened my eyes.
 
dowie said:
you don't know that - what if a Saddam had been overthrown regardless and a Shia govt taken control - it would be pretty likely you'd see the same sunni insurgent groups

and again it still doesn't mean you can claim Bush and Blair created ISIS, just that they contributed to the current conditions that have allowed ISIS to emerge
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Well Al-Queda wasn't in Iraq in 2003, then it was. Given that Islamic Static is at its core, formed of an unholy alliance between the fanatics of Al-Queda and the ruthless governance of former Ba'ath Party officials who were both locked up in the same place by the US, I think his assertion stands.
 
It wasn't just Tony Blair, parliament voted on this and had a strong majority, besides public opinion at the time was very much in favour.

Of course some people protested, but these are people who are against war in all forms, whether it's justified or not, you have to expect that.
 
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