Alien 5...Neil Blomkamp helmed Alien movie

Why do some people want this on Earth? Maybe they are hoping for Aliens on a mass scale. That isn't going to work. Despite there being numerous Xenomorphs in Aliens, confined spaces were used to great effect. You remove that confinement, and you remove most of the threat. It could work on Earth, but not as some huge war. That to me just sounds like fantasies of teenage boys. :p
 
Marsman said:
Why do some people want this on Earth? Maybe they are hoping for Aliens on a mass scale. That isn't going to work. Despite there being numerous Xenomorphs in Aliens, confined spaces were used to great effect. You remove that confinement, and you remove most of the threat. It could work on Earth, but not as some huge war. That to me just sounds like fantasies of teenage boys. :p
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Because it follows the canon already set down in the books/comics.
 
Third Opinion said:
Without Prometheus the story is so much better. Alien, chance encounter with alien signal. Send them to investigate and then realize the importance and set recover more important than crew.

With the recover being a disaster it is largely forgotten about until the pick up of Ripley. A rogue company man then instructs the colony that has been put there by probably coincidence to investigate. All goes Pete Tong so they have to send in Marines to destroy, rogue company man is trying to get rich on the discovery.

After Aliens you can see why the company is becoming obsessed as it destroys everything they throw at it and they have large military contracts.
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I am going to disagree it was ever a chance encounter :p

The company knew what they were getting into as Ash (the android) was tasked with ensuring the xeno's survivability regardless of the cost of the crew. There are subtle sentences such as responding to Ripley's question about surviving it with "You have my sympathies", a definite acknowledgement that he knew about the creature prior to the encounter.
 
Blomkamp direct Alien movie?

Scrapping 3 and 4 from the canon?

I'm beginning to think somebody out there has heard my prayers.
 
If they ignore 3 then its on the right tracks but I still don't have much faith in the franchise. After all that happened in 2 to then just be told oh they're dead lol at the start of 3 made me want to just switch if of there and then.
 
Third Opinion said:
I just think that Fox are right on this occasion and Ridley Scott is barking up the wrong tree.

He is concentrating on the Engineers which although interesting, are not exciting or frightening in the slightest. They may bore you to death over a pint.

The other thing is this obsession with Weyland Yutani corporation. In Prometheus they think they have the location of a ship or planet and send a massive expedition to investigate (with a ship that pre-dates Alien M-class freighter but is about 300 years more advanced).

Then skip to Alien and if you continue the story that Weyland Yutani is already obsessed with the Engineers it trusts its latest find to a passing freighter and inexperienced crew.

Skip forward to Aliens and Weyland Yutani with the obsession have built a colony on LV-426 but wait 40 years for a chance encounter with Ripley and only then send somebody to take a peak.

Without Prometheus the story is so much better. Alien, chance encounter with alien signal. Send them to investigate and then realize the importance and set recover more important than crew.

With the recover being a disaster it is largely forgotten about until the pick up of Ripley. A rogue company man then instructs the colony that has been put there by probably coincidence to investigate. All goes Pete Tong so they have to send in Marines to destroy, rogue company man is trying to get rich on the discovery.

After Aliens you can see why the company is becoming obsessed as it destroys everything they throw at it and they have large military contracts.
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Prometheus was complete pap to boot. As a stand-alone film it was disappointing, let alone an Alien film.

As an attempt to flesh out the Alien universe it made no sense at all. As a stand-alone film it made almost no sense at all. And sadly the plot/script was rubbish too :/

I will never understand why some people loved it so much. It was bad.
 
I want to believe this will be as good as it sounds like it could be...but I just don't think anyone making an Alien film now will get the look and feel right. It's like making new Star Wars films...they just look wrong.
 
Weazle said:
I am going to disagree it was ever a chance encounter :p

The company knew what they were getting into as Ash (the android) was tasked with ensuring the xeno's survivability regardless of the cost of the crew. There are subtle sentences such as responding to Ripley's question about surviving it with "You have my sympathies", a definite acknowledgement that he knew about the creature prior to the encounter.
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See I always read it that Ash was taking his orders from Mother. It was kind of covered in the part when Ripley overrides Mother's security and reads the Science Officers 'For your eyes only' log which has the part about crew expendable in it.

If Ash was fully briefed before the flight I cannot see why they would also give the orders via Mother that could be opened by the Officers. Also why not send a scientific or survey vessel?

So my take on it was Nostromo picked up the beacon and informed Weyland Yutani, they ordered Mother to stop the ship and wake the crew. Ash then took orders directly from Mother (risky, but the only way they could tell Ash now) that if they find something he must protect it and bring it back.

They choose the Nostromo because it picked up the beacon and reported it, they wanted to act quickly before other corporations made the discover so used the Nostromo to investigate. Well that's how I read the film.:)
 
Third Opinion said:
So my take on it was Nostromo picked up the beacon and informed Weyland Yutani, they ordered Mother to stop the ship and wake the crew. Ash then took orders directly from Mother (risky, but the only way they could tell Ash now) that if they find something he must protect it and bring it back.

They choose the Nostromo because it picked up the beacon and reported it, they wanted to act quickly before other corporations made the discover so used the Nostromo to investigate. Well that's how I read the film.:)
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I always thought it was much simpler than that. The WU ships and androids have secret standing orders to investigate anything alien for commercial advantage. As soon as any ship detects a possible alien anything, all orders are superseded, everyone is expendable in pursuit of whatever might be there.
 
Steampunk said:
I always thought it was much simpler than that. The WU ships and androids have secret standing orders to investigate anything alien for commercial advantage. As soon as any ship detects a possible alien anything, all orders are superseded, everyone is expendable in pursuit of whatever might be there.
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That's WY! Weyland Yutani!

/pedant
 
Everything since aliens has been poor.

Right now, the bar is very very low, Neil is a decent director who I think will put a lot of thought into making this a respectable effort.

I liked d9 and what he did with the budget available was amazing. I thought Matt Damon was the biggest problem with Elysium, he's just so dull, not going to ever watch it again but I wouldn't class it as a bad film.

A lot of potential with the alien universe, hoping he can make it work.
 
It's now been confirmed he won't be disregarding Alien 3/Resurrection, it's just a different story that takes place after Aliens somehow. Not sure how he will manage that.
 
Steampunk said:
I always thought it was much simpler than that. The WU ships and androids have secret standing orders to investigate anything alien for commercial advantage. As soon as any ship detects a possible alien anything, all orders are superseded, everyone is expendable in pursuit of whatever might be there.
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That's sort of how I've tended to read it, WY are meant to be pretty much the ultimate capitalist soulless company in pursuit of a profit whilst paying lip service to the law (where they think it can catch them/in public), but completely willing to throw it out the airlock when they think they can do something without being caught, or cover up/bribe their way out of trouble.

I don't think all droids had the instruction (too risky), but suspect both driods and ships computers had a standing order to report anything unusual (without informing crew or government), so that the company could decide to send an expendable ship the next time, with a prepared computer/droid (thus avoiding the risk of a senior company exec or exec's family member accidentally being classed as expendable).

Ash and Mother were independent, but Mother had additional instructions that would be given to Ash under the right circumstances, and the ability to communicate with the company without the crew being aware of it.

I get the impression that WY had some inkling there was something there, but didn't know, hence why they put Ash on board at short notice.

You see this in Aliens where the company send Newts family out to the site of the wreck knowing something is said to be there, and that the only survivor from a previous contact with that moon/anomaly says it's dangerous.

And in one of the recent Aliens books set just before Aliens this is explored and explained a lot more (yes I know the books probably are not canon).
 
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