[USA] Felony Murder: the murder charge where you don't kill anyone

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cheesyboy said:
But his action wasn't to kill his friend. His friend made his own choice to enter the property - is getting killed not entirely his own responsibility? Surely by your logic it is?
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No you are wrong.

Its was a group that did the crime and so the group as a whole takes the time. If he didnt want to get charged for murder he should have immediate persuaded his friend not to do it and inform the police to what was about to happen.
 
stulid said:
Do the crime, get everything coming to you.
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What? Arrested and charged for something you didn't do?

It makes countries in the Middle East chopping someone's hand off after stealing food because they are starving seem half reasonable...
 
VoG said:
He wasn't to know they were unarmed tho, given the fact that in the states guns are so prevalent they're for sale in local supermarkets, from a home owners point of view your probably safer just assuming a burglars going to be armed & act accordingly.
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Yet an investigation into it should still have occurred (and may very well have). I'm not suggesting the homeowner should have been jailed, however shooting two unarmed burglars without warning deserves at least that.
 
stulid said:
No you are wrong.

Its was a group that did the crime and so the group as a whole takes the time. If he didnt want to get charged for murder he should have immediate persuaded his friend not to do it and inform the police to what was about to happen.
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Sounds to me that you're talking nonsense to try to defend an absurd entrenched position.
 
Amp34 said:
What? Arrested and charged for something you didn't do?
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But he did do it. There is the crime of "felony murder" - he was accused of it, charged with it and found guilty of it by his peers in a in a court of law.

If he didn't do it, then he wouldn't have been found guilty of it*


*discounting any miscarriage of justice etc.
 
amigafan2003 said:
But he did do it. There is the crime of "felony murder" - he was accused of it, charged with it and found guilty of it by his peers in a in a court of law.

If he didn't do it, then he wouldn't have been found guilty of it*


*discounting any miscarriage of justice etc.
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Well that's the point of the discussion. How absurd a law is that produces this sort of "justice". The law is the law, but is this law an ass?
 
Whilt I understand the logic behind shared guilt for the consequences of shared actions, I find it incorrect and illogical that they are called murderers. There's a world of difference in terms of a person's guilt, betwen what they did and even 'third degree' murder.

A mid-teen boy or four get locked up for a half century for burglary? That's not justice.
 
stulid said:
Sounds to me like you do not have any argument at all for this and are now trying to slander me.
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You suggested that the guy should have stopped the burglary and called the police to prevent the death of his mate, otherwise, the death is on him.

That's nonsense. Objectively.
 
cheesyboy said:
You suggested that the guy should have stopped the burglary and called the police to prevent the death of his mate, otherwise, the death is on him.

That's nonsense.
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Yes he should have done everything he could have to prevent the crime.

Simple isn't it.
 
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