Alien³ - What are your thoughts?

Cyberangel11 said:
What do you think of Alien³? Do you love it or hate it? :)
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I'm embarrassed to say this, i haven't seen it since the cinema and i've had the DC on DVD for a decade and now on Blu-ray for over 2 years and i STILL haven't seen it.

But from what i remember it was quite good if a little jarring in terms of the rest of the series. You really have to take it as a movie on it's own
 
Weazle said:
The "Assembly Cut" of Alien 3 (there is no director's cut as David Fincher has disowned the film and all versions :p) is what I liked as it had more characterization, better pacing/editing and different takes on some scenes which made it more better than the theatrical release .... its still pretty rough on some of the CGI as a minus.

I read the novelisation before the movie and there's stuff in the novel that weren't n the movie so you can see how tumultuous the film's production was.

It's the 3rd best Alien movie still but a very interesting take on the themes form the first 2 movies, shame it was tarnished by studio interference.
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Well there is a "directors cut"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alien-Directors-Disc-Special-Edition/dp/B0001B3YT2

However I doubt Fincher actually came back and had anything to do with this after Weaver ruined the movie.

Workprint/assembly/directors cut is far superior to the vanilla version most people have scene. The whole Golic sub-plot is great.
 
How did weaver ruin it?

I'm not sure I have ever seen the edit/cut of Alien 3 but I love it. After Aliens it's my next favourite. I like that they have few weapons and the tension. I don't care they killed newt or hicks. Didn't he ask for too much money or something?
 
I watched the theatrically version and wasn't impressed, then read the novelisation and thought "that would have been a much better film" and then I finally watched the "directors cut" in the Quadrilogy boxset and thought it was really good and it's very close to the novel too.
 
dannyjo22 said:
How did weaver ruin it?
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She wouldn't stop changing things, running to the Fox top bods each time Fincher wouldn't give her what she wanted, threatening to walk away from the movie, the list goes on.

Fincher barely even acknowledges the movie these days, that's how much he got screwed around.
 
I'm assuming spoilers are ok here? Don't look if not!

About a year or so before Alien 3 came out a mate had a rough copy. The story went that his sister was going out with a guy who worked on the set. It was the full version before the cut out the whole capture sequence I think it may have also had a different birth scene.

It's so silly when you know what to look for - there is a conversation with the furnace doors open and within a minute or two another conversation and the doors are shut.

It wasn't until years later when they released the "uncut" version that I got to see the whole film again.

Also, my mum was seeing a guy who briefly worked on the set too. He described the scene where they lower the EEV onto the floor.


There is also a part of Alien 4 (I actually like it, what I don't like is Whedon pretending it was all his idea when its a complete rip off or a comic story slightly changed to deal with Alien 3) when they cut the queen out of Ripley, she wakes up, grabs the surgeons arm and breaks it quite horrifically. I think I saw it in the cinema but have not seen a version since that had it in.

Also Aliens - shame they didn't put back in the scene where Ripley finds burke. While she's looking for Newt in the atmo processor theres a big explosion behind her - it's burke setting off the grenade she hands him.
 
I think Alien 3 would have been good if it had come directly after Alien and been designed to finish the series as a two film saga.

Problem for me is Aliens took it to a new level and had survivors at the end which I thought was going to develop the story line.

Instead these character's were killed off in the first few seconds of third film and kind of killed that story line dead.
 
As a standalone film it's great, it's got tremendous atmosphere and the cast is excellent as mentioned above. But, for me it just doesn't fit into the story arc.


On a side point, "forgetting" films as Blomkamp intends to do with 3 and Resurrection - anyone else struggle with this? Even if a film is bad, it still happened. The story has been told, and I for one have trouble moving past it. Be interesting to see how the new Alien film works out.
 
randal said:
As a standalone film it's great, it's got tremendous atmosphere and the cast is excellent as mentioned above. But, for me it just doesn't fit into the story arc.


On a side point, "forgetting" films as Blomkamp intends to do with 3 and Resurrection - anyone else struggle with this? Even if a film is bad, it still happened. The story has been told, and I for one have trouble moving past it. Be interesting to see how the new Alien film works out.
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Personally I could very easily discount anything that happened in Alien 3 as being "canon".
 
EddScott said:
Also Aliens - shame they didn't put back in the scene where Ripley finds burke. While she's looking for Newt in the atmo processor theres a big explosion behind her - it's burke setting off the grenade she hands him.
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Sadly it doesn't exist on film, only set photo's remain of this scene. I'd love to see it incorporated into Aliens.
 
I thought alien3 was quite decent. It felt very much like a dragged out story that should have perhaps stopped at aliens but as a general film it was ok.
 
Uncle Petey said:
It's a good film (moreso the 'director's' cut). It's just not as good as the first two.
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I like it more now than I did 5 years ago. Dunno why.
Alien and aliens are very different but both very good. Alien 3 isn't as good

Alien 4 isn't really same at all
 
Initially found it repugnant due to the skinhead and 18 cert (I was about 11 yrs old) and not as good as the others, I've long since embraced it as possibly the best film of the lot. It has great tension, atmosphere and grittiness, and that makes for great iconic cinema imo.

It's a shame it's worthless Holywood/American junk made to titillate me out of cash though, as are most films. Disgustingly dangerous at the same time, mere exposure enough to form a construct in the mind of 'this is how it should be'.
 
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