Government changes Free School model funding agreement to ban creationist schools.

My bad on the theory part..............

Even so, creationism shouldn't be taught as a mirror to evolution. It should be discussed in RS/RE as part of the belief system.
 
Hold on a second.

Are you saying that public schools today teach creationism in Science as a mirror to Evolution?

When I was in school in 97, RE was the only class that taught anything to do with religion.

When did this change?
 
I wish they would stop politicising education and just teach the damn kids, especially how to think for themselves.

Society needs to move on from the illnesses of religiously getting attached to certain people or material items, also how to notice when someone - IE a lying scumbag politician - is lying, i simply cant grasp how people can live their lives thinking that politicians haven't rotted away their humanity, then again most of the people voting have the notion that they must vote or come from a time when politicians actually did what they said.

But whatever, the only tools that schools should give to children beyond knowledge are logic and reason, the two defining principles of intelligence, if the student fails that, frankly they are a lost cause.
 
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mrk said:
Hold on a second.

Are you saying that public schools today teach creationism in Science as a mirror to Evolution?

When I was in school in 97, RE was the only class that taught anything to do with religion.

When did this change?
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It didn't, but Michael Gove's Free School idea freed state schools from the burden of state control, leaving them free to teach anything they want such as creationism. Now, as an afterthought, they've banned them from doing that at least.
 
scorza said:
It didn't, but Michael Gove's Free School idea freed state schools from the burden of state control, leaving them free to teach anything they want such as creationism. Now, as an afterthought, they've banned them from doing that at least.
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Quoting myself but looking back I think the above is one of my finer efforts, and relevant to today's Free School fiasco story: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/creationism-taught-at-durham-free-school-10080714.html

Pupils at Durham Free School were taught creationism during science lessons
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This is the inevitable consequence of the drive to remove public services from Authority control, once you do that you've removed them from all effective control which leaves the nutters free to do what they want.
 
Westyfield2 said:
Yawn.

Can't we just teach kids the facts as we currently know them, and a range of theories to that interpret the facts including the theory of evolution and the theory of creationism, and then let the kids be free to make up their own minds on which to believe?

Teaching them only one theory (be it evolution or creationism) seems a bit brain-washing to me.
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you're confusing a theory with a religious belief and seem to be making the assumption that they're equivalent to each other
 
Westyfield2 said:
Yawn.

Can't we just teach kids the facts as we currently know them, and a range of theories to that interpret the facts including the theory of evolution and the theory of creationism, and then let the kids be free to make up their own minds on which to believe?

Teaching them only one theory (be it evolution or creationism) seems a bit brain-washing to me.
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Words fail to describe how idiotic you sound.
 
Lightning01 said:
The theory of evolution is a scientific theory so should be taught in science.

the theory of creationism is not a scientific theory so should not be taught in science.

The facts that we currently know them is that the theory of evolution is true.
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There is no such thing as the Theory of Creationism. Creationism is a religious belief , apples and orangutans really.
 
We need to teach kids 50% more of

Maths, Science lets rope in here (physics, Chemistry, Biology and computer Science (and by computer science not how to plug a fricking printer in) PROGRAMMING).

Followed by English and another language and more PE

Anything else is hobby.

(the above will fail due to current teachers being graduates with no chance of a job as doing history or the study of modern art whilst wearing flip flops degrees leave no other option, etc etc)
 
Westyfield2 said:
Actually that's a good point. It may will currently be the best theory that fits the evidence, but it isn't yet 100% proven fact. And unless someone invents a time machine it's probably going to remain as that.


Again; I'm all for it being taught, as a theory, but not "This is the 100% truth, everything else is rubbish and you should instantly dismiss everything else you hear without even giving it any consideration what so ever. Anyone that raises the possibility of an alternative theory is thick.".
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Evolution is fact and is proven 100%.


If I drop a glass and it smashes then it is a fact that the glass dropped and smashed, that is 100% proven.
 
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