Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

Castiel · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:23

Will21st said:
Neither do I.

Good.

Will21st said:
Unnecessary, your pathological desire to downplay muslim terrorism, and then looking at your comments here tells me all I need to know about your views.

As you were.

Really....prove it...wait, you can't so you resort to such redundant comments.

Castiel · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:25

Will21st said:
Anything to say on Palestinian terrorism or does that get a pass?

No it doesn't. And he never said it did. He was speaking about collective punishment and the forcible removal of people from their homes and land.

B&W · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:27

Sliver said:
Are you seriously trying to make the argument that Jews are not persecuted ? You sir are ridiculous if that is your view. I can't think of a more persecuted race than the Jews. History is replete with numerous examples of this. Do you ever read books ?

They're not persecuted now which is what is relevant to us, not historical events. And bringing up this historical persecution every time to justify there actions is wrong.

Will21st · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:28

Castiel said:
Good.

Castiel said:
Really....prove it...wait, you can't so you resort to such redundant comments.

All it takes is a look through the ISIS thread...

Sliver · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:35

B&W said:
They're not persecuted now which is what is relevant to us, not historical events. And bringing up this historical persecution every time to justify there actions is wrong.

Not persecuted now ? Do you live in a fact condom ? Recently in France several Jews were murdered in cold blood by Muslim fundamentalist terrorists. Attacks against Jews are on the rise all across Europe. Seriously stop watching Fox News.

shadow_boxer · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:36

Castiel said:
Netanyahu is more threat to be honest.

+1

spoffle · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:37

So in summary, what Sliver and Will21st are saying is that they reject reality and substitute their own, whilst they accuse everyone else of doing the very same thing.

Amnesia · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:38

Sliver said:
Not persecuted now ? Do you live in a fact condom ? Recently in France several Jews were murdered in cold blood by Muslim fundamentalist terrorists. Attacks against Jews are on the rise all across Europe. Seriously stop watching Fox News.

Would you grant that same logic to Muslims ? How many Muslims have been killed by terrorists, how many Muslim countries get bombs dropped on them from outside forces....would you say Muslims are persecuted ?

Sliver · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:39

spoffle said:
So in summary, what Sliver and Will21st are saying is that they reject reality and substitute their own, whilst they accuse everyone else of doing the very same thing.

More nonsense. Neither of us said this.

Sliver · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:42

Amnesia said:
Would you grant that same logic to Muslims ? How many Muslims have been killed by terrorists, how many Muslim countries get bombs dropped on them from outside forces....would you say Muslims are persecuted ?

Yes, some Muslims suffer persecution. I've always empathised with the plight of the Kurds for example. Despite my support for Israel, I do think the Kurds have just as valid a claim to a homeland if not more so than Israel. There are around 40 million Kurds and only around 8 million Jews (In Israel). So, I would fully support the Kurdish claims to have their own state.

Will21st · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:49

spoffle said:
So in summary, what Sliver and Will21st are saying is that they reject reality and substitute their own, whilst they accuse everyone else of doing the very same thing.

Funny that, last I heard Israel was a democracy and Iran a theocratic Republic that suppresses free speech, imprisons thousands on political charges, executes under 18's, bans Homosexuality etc. etc.

However Israel are the bad guys, go figure.

lemonade · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:50

Silver, all your opines seem to be full of contradictions, you say your against religions, yet posted a religious propaganda video about king solomons temple and the whole judaic messianic nonsense.

StriderX · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:50

Will21st said:
Funny that, last I heard Israel was a democracy and Iran a theocratic Republic that suppresses free speech, imprisons thousands on political charges, executes under 18's, bans Homosexuality etc. etc.

However Israel are the bad guys, go figure.

To reduce conflict down to bad and good is to lose that conflict.

spoffle · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:51

Sliver said:
More nonsense. Neither of us said this.

It's what you're both doing in your actions

Amnesia · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:54

Will21st said:
Funny that, last I heard Israel was a democracy and Iran a theocratic Republic that suppresses free speech, imprisons thousands on political charges, executes under 18's, bans Homosexuality etc. etc.

However Israel are the bad guys, go figure.

I think it's more a distrust for Netanyahu than people disliking Israelis.
Would be unfair to judge the Israeli people on the actions of Netanyahu....same as a lot of Brits wouldn't want to be judged over the actions of Tony Blair.

Sliver · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:56

lemonade said:
Silver, all your opines seem to be full of contradictions, you say your against religions, yet posted a religious propaganda video about king solomons temple and the whole judaic messianic nonsense.

Posting that video is simply posting that video. Does that mean I'm a Jew ? No, I'm an theist. Does it mean I'm a Muslim ? No, I'm an atheist.

I posted that video, because it shines a light on the Jewish/Palestine conflict. It shows the complete disregard that Palestinians have for the most holy site in Judaism. I feel this is important because before any kind of peace can be achieved between Israel and Palestine, there needs to be a respect for each other between them. The Jews need to treat Palestinians as equals and with respect to their beliefs and vice-versa.

Castiel · 4 Mar 2015 at 12:56

Will21st said:
All it takes is a look through the ISIS thread...

What the one with over 4000 posts, only 8 of which were mine where I said we should demonise extremists and combat the radicalisation of young Muslims. That one?

Will21st · 4 Mar 2015 at 13:04

Castiel said:
What the one with over 4000 posts, only 8 of which were mine where I said we should demonise extremists and combat the radicalisation of young Muslims. That one?

Yeah, the one where you went off on one about Jewish extremists, yeah, that's the one.

jmc007 · 4 Mar 2015 at 13:13

A lot of people in this thread should read the basics first.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jews-Arabs.html

spoffle · 4 Mar 2015 at 13:20

Will21st said:
Funny that, last I heard Israel was a democracy and Iran a theocratic Republic that suppresses free speech, imprisons thousands on political charges, executes under 18's, bans Homosexuality etc. etc.

However Israel are the bad guys, go figure.

So based on this logic, Israel are the good guys then?