Come on be serious. Of course I want to be left alone when home. We all value privacy in that sense. Read my earlier post about living in a zoo. This doesn't change the fact that I don't give a toss about the government reading my emails or whatever. I honestly don't. If they have nothing better to do than read the mundane discourse which is my existence, then so be it.
Conservative proposal to end 'end-to-end' encryption technologies
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Come on be serious. Of course I want to be left alone when home. We all value privacy in that sense. Read my earlier post about living in a zoo. This doesn't change the fact that I don't give a toss about the government reading my emails or whatever. I honestly don't. If they have nothing better to do than read the mundane discourse which is my existence, then so be it.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...llecting-personal-data-high-tech-devices.html
You're already being monitored by everything with a mic or camera that's connected to a network. The government just have to pick it up from the cloud where the corporations store it.
You're already being monitored by everything with a mic or camera that's connected to a network. The government just have to pick it up from the cloud where the corporations store it.
But the issue that you seemingly can't understand is that just because there's nothing going on, doesn't mean that that is what they should be doing.
The fact that you draw the line at your home shows you understand that this is a problem on some level, just the way you're rationalising it is off.
We took on the might of Nazi Germany and a decades long cold war with soviet Russia while carrying on our conflict with the Irish without any of this bs being necessary so why do we need infringements on freedom now unless our government fears us.
and if your not a good person who abides by the law, what changes?
The bad people carry on encrypting their messages.
pointless and a massive waste of money/resources trying to enforce an impossible law
These people are out of touch with reality they are to stupid to understand internet communications or how the internet even works.
All the websites virgin were forced to block.
instead of http:// at the start of the url change it to https://
wow government is so ignorant it just baffles me, the advisor's advising these people are clearly ignorant as well
I do understand spoffle. I just don't give a toss. I honestly do not care one bit if the government wants to snoop on my bank account, listen to my phone calls, read my emails etc. Let them get on with it. Trust me, they would soon give up out boredom.
The privacy at home thing is daft. Of course I want privacy at home. But I've already explained that in my zoo post.
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Don't you dare quote the Daily Fail as your news source. Shame on you.
Do bad people really abide by the law ? Seems like a contradiction. Give me an example of a bad person who has never been in trouble with the law, just to help me understand. Pick someone famous so I can check.
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Erm... What?
They're not really after the bad guys they want total information awareness against us becsuse they plan to do things most of the public won't like and want to nip any opposition in the bud so they can maintain power.
Well if he comes back at me with his m8 Bob from the pub, I have no way of verifying the reliability of his claim. If he picks someone famous, I can google them. Not rocket science is it ?
Because the technology has changed? We no longer have letters, phone calls or meeting up as the main methods of communication.
Big point is though if we deliberately make things insecure to "stop the terrorists" then its insecure against criminals and of course as the government keeps telling us all this organised crime is what funds terrorism so isn't this bill helping the terrorists?
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Conservatives are the best of bad bunch.
Would you really like Miliband as PM, really?
Would you really like Miliband as PM, really?
Honestly, yes. Even though I have more personality in the tip of penis than steady Ed has period, I'd still prefer Labour. I'm a wishy washy liberal see.
Hence why I argue that fixing the existing system is where the focus should be. The issue with the internet is that it isn't covered by the existing rules, that has allowed the security services to take tremendous liberties that haven't been able to with other forms of communication.
RIPA is a rubbish law that should never have been passed, but other laws around surveillance are much more robust and much better models for what we should be aiming for.
Labour aren't liberal
I think they are. Certainly more so than this right wing regime we have to suffer at the moment.
Economic liberalism is the opposite of what the labour party stand for, and the record of labour in office on social liberalism is pretty shocking as well.
For liberalism, the two groups within the lib dems are the closest of the mainstream parties.
Labour are liberal when you contrast them with the Tory party. Just like the Democrats are liberal in America when you contrast them with the Republicans.