In my eyes I would say their Government and IDF are given the atrocities they have committed.
I am sure you have some witty comment to come back with so come on lets have it
Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.
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In my eyes I would say their Government and IDF are given the atrocities they have committed.
I am sure you have some witty comment to come back with so come on lets have it
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Very true but Israeli military response is somewhat more deadly.
There is no such thing as a de jure, de facto terrorist state. There is such a thing as state supported terrorist actions, which Israel has been accused of and some actions, such as the Mavi Marmara are considered to be so. Personally I consider Likud to be consistent with its terrorist organisation heritage in how it conducts its foreign and domestic policies, so in this context I regard some Israeli actions as being consistent with state sponsored terrorism.
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In my eyes I would say their Government and IDF are given the atrocities they have committed.
I am sure you have some witty comment to come back with so come on lets have it
Not feeling very witty to be honest. Feeling a bit disturbed at some of things being said. Honestly shocked at some of the things people are posting. Think I'll leave this thread and come back later.
It has already been declared that Hamas (or Al-Qassam) did not kidnap Israeli kids, so well done with keeping up with Israel's lies, however, Israelis DID kidnap some Palestinian kids and burn them alive. Hamas was accused as a reason for Protective Edge which was later found to be a false flag.
No evidence has been shown for the human shields by Hamas, although another terror group in Gaza has been accused.
Like I have said, you believe the lies and rhetoric and do nothing to establish real facts.
It is pointless discussing with you any more, you are so closed minded to the truth it is unbelievable.
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You think Israel's responses to rocket attacks are proportionate ?
Truth hurts?
Wow... So because you did not garner enough sympathy and support for your Israeli Bandwagon you are running?
What did you say to AGD a while ago?
You are only shocked because we all dont share your love for Israels Apartheid State
Lets turn this around, if killing 1500+ civilians a year is fine and dandy because the Palestinians killed 2.6 Israelis, then would you have been okay if France had killed 576 Israeli civilians in 1981 when for no reason Israel launched an unprovoked bombing raid on a French reactor that was under construction in Iraq, killing ten Iraqis and one French contractor?
Hell by Israeli standards Iraq should have been allowed to kill 4500+ Israelis.
Or are Israeli lives worth more than other lives?
Hell by Israeli standards Iraq should have been allowed to kill 4500+ Israelis.
Or are Israeli lives worth more than other lives?
Let's not also forget that Israel was the source of the intelligence that said Sadaam had WMD's, they are following suit with Iran.
I know Iran has called for the destruction of Israel, but they aren't anti Jewish, many Jews do live in Iran. What they and the Arab states around them don't like is the state existing in what they regard as Palestine. If Israel was broken up and became Palestine with everyone living in Peace, the whole region would be far more stable.
We confuse the rhetoric of the destruction of the state of Israel with the killing and genocide of all Jews, which is what Israel wants us to believe.
I know Iran has called for the destruction of Israel, but they aren't anti Jewish, many Jews do live in Iran. What they and the Arab states around them don't like is the state existing in what they regard as Palestine. If Israel was broken up and became Palestine with everyone living in Peace, the whole region would be far more stable.
We confuse the rhetoric of the destruction of the state of Israel with the killing and genocide of all Jews, which is what Israel wants us to believe.
what I don't think Silver realises is that most people here have an open mind about most things going on in the world and can take news/fact/stats, process them to form a balanced opinion.
In one way they are probably both as bad as each other - the problem being one side has a modern trained army which isn't afraid to dish out casualties at a rate of about 1000:1 when they decide to see fit (or someone needs to be elected)
You would think that the more modern advanced state would take the moral high ground and join the rest of the 1st world and work through the problems instead of constantly prodding with a turd tipped stick through expansion and military slap downs.
From afar and no links to either side - my fairness gauge kicks in and that's why so many people have the view we do. Don't get me wrong anyone killing anyone else doesn't sit well with me. It really doesn't sit well when it looks like 1st world army vs a 3rd world population
In one way they are probably both as bad as each other - the problem being one side has a modern trained army which isn't afraid to dish out casualties at a rate of about 1000:1 when they decide to see fit (or someone needs to be elected)
You would think that the more modern advanced state would take the moral high ground and join the rest of the 1st world and work through the problems instead of constantly prodding with a turd tipped stick through expansion and military slap downs.
From afar and no links to either side - my fairness gauge kicks in and that's why so many people have the view we do. Don't get me wrong anyone killing anyone else doesn't sit well with me. It really doesn't sit well when it looks like 1st world army vs a 3rd world population
Have they actually said this? I know about the "wiped of the map" comment Fox News fabricated however I wasn't aware they had actually made proper threats (not in recent times anyway).
The problem is numbers do not matter to him unless its a Israeli that is killed.
People have given him thought out reasonable rebuttals but I am afraid he will not see the other side of the issues.
I vaguely remember that statement but you have to wonder why they said it... Israel is a very big disruption in the middle east. And their continuing abuse of people does not help their image.
I suppose the crux of the matter is would Iran be the same if they had Nukes? I doubt they want to turn the world into a Nuclear wasteland any more that any other of the nuclear powers...
Ahmadinejad said "Wipe away Israel from the Region" which was widely used as wipe out Israel. He suggested Israel should move to Europe and not the Middle East.
It is continually misquoted and Netenyahu is happy for this misinterpretation to be widespread as it suits his purposes.
Since that time he has widely stated the Zionist regime would destroy itself from within, and he is likely right. He has never had any intentions of attacking Israel as they know it would be suicide.
I was due to go to Tehran in 2006, but US sanctions on dealing with Iran sadly prevented me from doing business there.
Hamas's Charter calls for the break up and destruction of Israel and a return to one state for Arabs and Jews, but that is often misrepresented and Israel's Likud calls for the destruction of Palestine so they are just as bad as one another.
You will rarely see the western press quote that.
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I don't and you would be foolish to think otherwise.
Of course!
Sorry I am probably confusing myself
Its been a long day and I got very little work done...Do you think Iran would change or Do you think they would use nukes?
Why and how do you think they would change ?
please don't do a sliver and tell me to go and do some research
