A+E waiting times.

sityeuropa · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:00

Took my mate get his foot checked last night at 23:30. It didn't look very busy I would say there was 10 people before us.

I'm typing this at 7am still waiting for him. I've only known them previously to be four hourish.

PapaLazaru · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:02

What is wrong with his foot?

areksnumbr1sxylady · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:04

Medical Thread.

Close it daun.

Freakbro · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:13

You probably can't see the line of Ambulances stacked up round the back waiting to drop off more urgent cases

That or they are just making you wait for the ***** and giggles

Xordium · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:13

sityeuropa said:
I would say there was 10 people before us.

10 People with apparently minor injuries if there are a ton of major injuries that have come in the back way via ambulance then they will take priority. Still sucks but I am just making the point that because there are 10 people you see doesn't mean there are 10 people ahead of you. Two cars in an accident will tie people down significantly and you won't see that.

benjii · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:17

A&E isn't a first come first served basis, they rank you on the severity of your injury, broken feet don't rank highly. I'll give you an example, I had a sore calf which I thought was a muscle tear, but I've had a DVT before so went to the Docs just to be sure, they couldn't do anything so refered me to A&E, it was packed but I only just managed to sit down before they called my name.

scorza · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:27

The target waiting time for A&E is 4 hours, however hospitals are regularly missing that target now (see the Save the NHS thread for details).

godinman · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:34

scorza said:
The target waiting time for A&E is 4 hours, however hospitals are regularly missing that target now (see the Save the NHS thread for details).

Cosimo · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:35

PapaLazaru said:
What is wrong with his foot?

It's healed now.

grudas · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:41

Yeah sat for 4hours after breaking elbow.. Worst thing was not tthat but the fact that I was covered in blood and dirt which resulted in a very uncomfortable and itchy time! Funny thing is that I only sat there for 4 hours instead of 30 minutes is because she ccouldn't pronounce my name ;/

SexyGreyFox · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:46

On Wednesday I spent time with my Mum in A&E and because she came by ambulance she was straight into a cubicle. I watched one Nurse try and deal with 6 patients and then there was a phone call for her which she answered about 15 minutes later. I stayed with her for 2 hours and then my Sister took over who waited another 3 hours and then out of the blue the Doctor said she could go home. When I left her I took a shortcut out of A&E back to the Main Building and down a corridor I counted 12 patients on beds.

Last year we spent 1.5 hours sitting in one area and then 6 patients were sent to another area where we waited a further 1.5 hours before my Mum was called. Another 2 hours and she was discharged and on the way back we passed all the other 5 patients who were still waiting

GW1970 · 6 Mar 2015 at 07:58

The problem is a lot of people use it instead of their GP or as a walkin centre.

neil_g · 6 Mar 2015 at 08:04

GW1970 said:
The problem is a lot of people use it instead of their GP or as a walkin centre.

This. We went to the minor injuries unit for the missus suspect broken foot and we were in xrayed and out again in about an hour.

People gonna people though, "omgz iz gunna dye" :rolleyes:

Xordium · 6 Mar 2015 at 08:14

GW1970 said:
The problem is a lot of people use it instead of their GP or as a walkin centre.

And maybe if we had never shunted a load of people into the community without support and removed the services for them that would be a lesser problem.
Maybe if there were walk in centres readily available then it would be an option.
Maybe if GPs were readily available and not completely booked up then it wouldn't be a problem.
Maybe if the Tory scum hadn't slashed the money available there wouldn't have been so many staff cuts.
Maybe if the Tory scum didn't stop letting everyone into the country to force down wages there wouldn't be so many people to see.

GW1970 · 6 Mar 2015 at 08:24

lets not forget it's probably Margaret Thatchers fault.

[FnG]magnolia · 6 Mar 2015 at 08:31

Xordium said:
And maybe if we had never shunted a load of people into the community without support and removed the services for them that would be a lesser problem.
Maybe if there were walk in centres readily available then it would be an option.
Maybe if GPs were readily available and not completely booked up then it wouldn't be a problem.
Maybe if the Tory scum hadn't slashed the money available there wouldn't have been so many staff cuts.
Maybe if the Tory scum didn't stop letting everyone into the country to force down wages there wouldn't be so many people to see.

Well, this is quite something.

Hades · 6 Mar 2015 at 08:36

Xordium said:
Maybe if the Tory scum hadn't slashed the money available there wouldn't have been so many staff cuts.
Maybe if the Tory scum didn't stop letting everyone into the country to force down wages there wouldn't be so many people to see.

It was the Labour government that started mass immigration which has caused wages to fall. It was also Labour that wrecked the economy which meant massive cuts were needed. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good political rant eh?

Haggisman · 6 Mar 2015 at 08:39

When I crashed my bike on the way to work and broke my collar bone (conveniently about 500 yards from A&E

), I was in, x-rayed, given a stack of co-codamol and ibuprofen, and back on my way to work within about 2 hours...

Couldn't really complain tbh.

Freakbro · 6 Mar 2015 at 09:06

Hades said:
It was the Labour government that started mass immigration which has caused wages to fall.

Apart from the latest empirical evidence is showing immigration has not caused any fall in wages

It was also Labour that wrecked the economy which meant massive cuts were needed.

Apart from it was a banking system collapse initiated in the sub prime American mortgage market

But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good political rant eh?

Quite

Hades · 6 Mar 2015 at 09:51

Freakbro said:
Apart from the latest empirical evidence is showing immigration has not caused any fall in wages

Apart from it was a banking system collapse initiated in the sub prime American mortgage market

Quite

I was responding to xordiums suggestion that wages had fallen. They certainly have in real terms.

I genuinely despair at all political parties now and am not trying to make a point. The current conservative libdem one is just as bad as the previous labour government. But having lived through several labour governments since the 70s I find it too much of a coincidence that the economy gets battered every time they are in power. The last one announced no more boom and bust and now declare there was nothing they could have done to prevent the crash. I don't believe them.

But to get back on topic, I recall waiting 8 hours in an A&E in agony with a kidney stone back in the late 90s. When I had a kidney stone last year I was seen in 30 mins. I am happy to wait if I have something non critical but whenever I have needed urgent assistance the NHS have been great (broken bones, serious illnes, etc).

I would be happy to pay more tax to protect services if it could be ringfenced. But most governments wont ringfence the money.

I am also firmly of the opinion that the massive increase in EU immigration in such a short period of time is a major factor in the pressure on public services such as health and schools. It was obviously going to happen when immigration barriers were lowered. Any party, whether left or right, that says it is unrelated ir could not be predicted is lying through their teeth and not to be trusted.