Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

I would rather you just answer my question to be honest.

Are we not working toward cures for cancers?

As they say, God works through us.

This is the problem with such questions, no disrespect to jmc007, but any theologian worth his salt would find the answers to such questions relatively simple.
 
Movie time.

This went no where. Xordium was right. But it was fun. 'God' bless all.

*Disclaimer: Sliver does not believe in any god/gods.*
 
Are we not working toward cures for cancers?

As they say, God works through us.

This is the problem with such questions, no disrespect to jmc007, but any theologian worth his salt would find the answers to such questions relatively simple.

Did I answer wrong?:confused:
 
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Here are the get out clauses that explain why none of your prayers ever get answered.


1. “If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.” (Matthew 21:22)

2.James wrote:
“But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does” (James 1:6-8).

Believing is perhaps the best known condition for prayer. But there are other reasons prayer is not answered.


3.We ask with wrong motives.


“When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures” (James 4:3).


4.Unconfessed sin separates us from God, so that He will not hear.


“Surely the arm of the Lord is not too short to save, nor His ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities (sins) have separated you from God; your sins have hidden his face from you so that He will not hear” (Isaiah 59:1-2).


5.We set up idols in our hearts that come between us and God.


“Son of man, these men have set up idols in their hearts and put wicked stumbling blocks before their faces. Should I let them inquire of me at all?” (Ezekiel 14:3).


6.We don't answer those who cry to us for help.


“If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered” (Proverbs 21:13).


7.We don't remain in God/God's Word doesn't remain in us.


“If you remain in me and my word remains in you, ask whatever you wish and it will be given to you” (John 15:7).

My God Silver I am stunned.

Did you find all those yourself? They are amazing and exactly why prayer may not be answered.
 
Did I answer wrong?:confused:

The problem is with the ambiguity inherent in such answers...God work through us, or we are doing ourselves...either way the outcomes are the same, we cannot verify anything objectively so we need to rely upon our own world view.

You would see the work of God in each cure discovered.

Old Coals would see the work of exceptional men and women in each cure discovered.

Me, I simply don't know and just hope that we continue to find such cures...however they come about.
 
By the physical laws of the Universe itself Death is not the End. Matter is transformed not destroyed, so from that perspective we are eternal...it may not be in the ways that we expect, we not be "who" we are..who knows, but ultimately nothing ever really ends, it changes.

I recall someone using the TV as an analogy for corporeal life. When you switch the TV off, does that mean the signal no longer exists? Perhaps our "soul" (or what make us, us) is akin to that signal...received by our body (brain) and when our corporeal body dies, we are reintegrated into some greater intelligence simply awaiting for the next TV to be switched on...who knows. All I do know is that in an infinite universe, there are infinite possibilities and eventually we will all know the truth or it wont matter.

I'm not sure that 'we' specifically are(as in the specific instance of us that is alive now) but yeah the matter that makes up us is - though the 'we' bit is the bit that ends, most cells in our body are only 10 years old at most and when we die then that living organism that held it all together, that instance of us, is gone, that mass of cells is no longer sentient and only lives on in the impact we had on the lives of others, memories of us and of course genetic code passing down certain traits to our offspring.

Whether we're all part of some larger system or there is some greater intelligence in the universe is another matter I guess.
 
Are you working on one?

There are people who profess to have been cured of cancer, medically documented no doubt too.
Why He does not heal all I don't know.(*Edit. Here.)

Suffering I do not fully understand, even partially really, though I believe it will not be so much that we can not bear it. It may even be necessary.

Surely enough people have asked him to end the suffering of people?

Why isn't he listening?

Organised religion is nothing more than a great big pyramid scheme.
 
I'm not sure that 'we' specifically are(as in the specific instance of us that is alive now) but yeah the matter that makes up us is - though the 'we' bit is the bit that ends, most cells in our body are only 10 years old at most and when we die then that living organism that held it all together, that instance of us, is gone, that mass of cells is no longer sentient and only lives on in the impact we had on the lives of others, memories of us and of course genetic code passing down certain traits to our offspring.

Whether we're all part of some larger system or there is some greater intelligence in the universe is another matter I guess.

That's the point, we only assume our sentience is intrinsically dependent upon our corporeality.
 
That's the point, we only assume our sentience is intrinsically dependent upon our corporeality.

For the moment we assume yes, though it probably is, as neuroscience progresses we might one day have a better understanding of what makes us sentient. There is nothing to suggest otherwise at least, there doesn't appear to be another facet of it outside our bodies, when we die then that appears to be it for our sentient existence... we live on only through our offspring/legacy.

I'd see the question of whether there is some greater 'intelligence' within the universe as a separate matter. We can all be part of a greater system while our presence/existence within it is merely a small moment in time.
 
You assume you are saved. Your faith informs this belief in you, however the actual act of salvation of your soul comes at the moment of judgement does it not?

No. My soul is saved now. Whether I can lose salvation is a theological debate.

Back on topic I don't think anyone has quoted from Netanyahu's speech to congress.
This was a key part:-

Don't be fooled. The battle between Iran and ISIS doesn't turn Iran into a friend of America.

Iran and ISIS are competing for the crown of militant Islam. One calls itself the Islamic Republic. The other calls itself the Islamic State. Both want to impose a militant Islamic empire first on the region and then on the entire world. They just disagree among themselves who will be the ruler of that empire.

In this deadly game of thrones, there's no place for America or for Israel, no peace for Christians, Jews or Muslims who don't share the Islamist medieval creed, no rights for women, no freedom for anyone.

So when it comes to Iran and ISIS, the enemy of your enemy is your enemy.

(APPLAUSE)

The difference is that ISIS is armed with butcher knives, captured weapons and YouTube, whereas Iran could soon be armed with intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombs. We must always remember -- I'll say it one more time -- the greatest dangers facing our world is the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons. To defeat ISIS and let Iran get nuclear weapons would be to win the battle, but lose the war. We can't let that happen.

(APPLAUSE)

But that, my friends, is exactly what could happen, if the deal now being negotiated is accepted by Iran. That deal will not prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. It would all but guarantee that Iran gets those weapons, lots of them.

Let me explain why. While the final deal has not yet been signed, certain elements of any potential deal are now a matter of public record. You don't need intelligence agencies and secret information to know this. You can Google it.
 
For the moment we assume yes, though it probably is, as neuroscience progresses we might one day have a better understanding of what makes us sentient. There is nothing to suggest otherwise at least, there doesn't appear to be another facet of it outside our bodies, when we die then that appears to be it for our sentient existence... we live on only through our offspring/legacy.

I'd see the question of whether there is some greater 'intelligence' within the universe as a separate matter. We can all be part of a greater system while our presence/existence within it is merely a small moment in time.

Actually the way the thread was going was best, sorry for posting Netanyahu.

Don't scientist now say there are ten dimensions? How can we say with any certainty that we only live on through our offspring, when we know nothing of so many dimensions to the Universe?


This is a poem I first heard from a great friend who helped me find Christ. Not very scriptural, though his mother died when he was young and he shared this with me.

Do not stand at my grave and weep.
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning’s hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.
 
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Don't scientist now say there are ten dimensions? How can we say with any certainty that we only live on through our offspring, when we know nothing of so many dimensions to the Universe?

I'm not sure we technically can say that with certainty - but I can say that it seems very likely and that there isn't anything to suggest otherwise. But at the moment we don't fully understand what makes us sentient.
 
whereas Iran could soon be armed with intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombs.

This would be the same Iran that has been two years away from the bomb now for 20 years and still isn't.

This would be the same Iran that is ranked at 10th in the world on producing Engineering papers and still hasn't bothered.

The knowledge is there, the materials are there, the help from aligned nations is there and yet they haven't done such a thing so far despite plenty of provocation, time and opportunity.

What makes you think Iran is led by militant Islamics. Seems to me they were the first country to offer the US help after 9/11 not actually provide the killers like the US friendly Saudi did. Seems to me they've got a leader who states quite openly that nuclear weapons are unIslamic. Seems to me that they are not an aggressive nation recently or historically. Seems to me that if they are surrounded by one country they really don't get a long with it's the other way - Pakistan.
 
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