Soldato
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He gave evidence of a common theme though. You just seem to want to tar him with being a bigot.
Not made that claim, I was simply querying as I have stated numerous times. What evidence? nothing backed up and sourced, everything was opinionated. He uses quora as evidence which in fact went against what he was saying, from which I quoted from. Perhaps a bit of bias or prejudice creeped through on his statement or perhaps he was simply mistaken, I don't know. He compared Iran-Pakistan to Scotland-England which is ridiculous on so many levels its painful.
NO it wasn't, I knew you didn't understand the point...it was about the people, not the governments. And the region has a history of dispute, sectarianism and fighting. The books, references and academic papers I gave you to read all show this...it goes back over a thousand years, vastly pre-dating the counties of Iran or Pakistan..but indicative of ingrained prejudices and hatreds between the peoples of the region over hundreds of years. This is what Xordium was talking about when he said that the greatest threat with regard to Iran is the border with Pakistan...and the only actual fighting going on is on that border so I cannot see how that isn't actually indicative of what he said...and while both countries do attempt to combat the problems, they also surreptitiously support them...again this is indicative of the superficial nature of the relationship.

Its not hard to see a shia / sunni issue, I just disagree that it has been a traditional issue between the two people historically or the two nations. You haven't provided a bead of evidence, the evidence is heavily against you including two polls on the general public, government to government level (which in a way represent the people too as governments do), a accepted source now as Quora and Reddit (I didn't bring them into acceptance) whilst you have sourced an irrelevant poll highly disputed and contradicted by two independent polls, "trust me mate" and random books you haven't even read yourself on irrelevant subjects or attempted to source from.
I told you then your links did no such thing, I asked you then to quote or source from them and also have stated this same thing in my last reply to you which you didn't. The border skirmishes are recent, the boluc are not with Pakistan or with Iran, they want their own thing. They are even ethnically different. And well he's wrong there too since the greatest threat to them is from arabs or infact israel, which you agree with and quite possibly Iraq now and certainly Iraq in the near past.
What part of
Pakistani forces inflicted heavy casualties on the separatists. The insurgency fell into decline after a return to the four-province structure and the abolishment of the Sardari system.
do you not understand?
Edit: I buy the way the Gullop polled 2168 people nationally all over country putting another nail into Zogbys poll.
and PEW
Multi-stage cluster sample stratified by province and urbanity
Adult population (excluding the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Jammu and Kashmir for security reasons, areas of instability in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa [formerly the North-West Frontier Province] and Baluchistan, military restricted areas and villages with less than 100 inhabitants – together, roughly 18% of the population). Disproportionately urban. The data were weighted to reflect the actual urbanity distribution in Pakistan.
Putting another nail in the coffin for your other point of it not being representative.
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