gaming pc for £600 possible or not

These guys couldn't keep to a budget if they tried.
You want a gaming rig?
Go with the intel aniversary edition and overclock it, you wont be disapointed

 
harry5522 said:
Apart from the fact that they kept to the requested budget the entire time and provided significantly faster system specs than this :)
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much faster 4 core 4 thread 3.5 stock , not 2 core 2 thread 3.2.

sorry but nothing like what i need. also would need gtx960 is benchmarked slower than the r9 280X and the **b grade is available so R9 is even cheaper.


nope i have my basic spec its a case , cooler system , modding now i need info on.


im still looking at SSD as it has a m.2 and if i am correct it can have a pcie extention on it and support a 770 read range.

looking into that.

so my basic spec is as follows and would just like help with a open side/window case cooling capability and cooling water range to give UV effect. also fan multi fan range with UV strips and UV paint. if there is another site for modding then i will look there but watercooling setup and case can be purchased here. just need advise on that.


transferring optical r/w and 1tb drive over from old system.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £187.99
1 x **B Grade** MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express G (GX-225-MS) £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £89.99
1 x SK Hynix 256GB SSD SH910A SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (HFS256G32MNB-2201A) £84.98
1 x Antec TruePower Classic 750w '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £72.95
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
Total : £621.49 (includes shipping : £8.00).

 
For watercooling place a thread in the watercooling section of the forum.

Will you be wanting to watercool the gpu.
 
Samantha1968 said:
much faster 4 core 4 thread 3.5 stock , not 2 core 2 thread 3.2.

sorry but nothing like what i need.
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Sorry, but nobody buys a g3258 to run stock clocks.
Go and check those bench mark ;)

And as for the 960 being benched as slower. Yeah maybe, but it will use a lot less power, and you're upgrading from what card again?
Either way, you would be happy. :)
 
RJC said:
For watercooling place a thread in the watercooling section of the forum.

Will you be wanting to watercool the gpu.
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yes most likely water cool gpu's as well will have second gpu later so need system that can have that second addition gpu cooler capability/add on

thanks
 
jeckulz said:
Sorry, but nobody buys a g3258 to run stock clocks.
Go and check those bench mark ;)

And as for the 960 being benched as slower. Yeah maybe, but it will use a lot less power, and you're upgrading from what card again?
Either way, you would be happy. :)
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checked various benchmarks and nvidea modikl is slower on most parts.

the i5 i put down is to o/c so do not see your point of nobody buys to use stock.
the i5 is o/c capable and 4 core 4 thread and your one is only 2 core 2 thread and lower starting clock speed. o/c valu wise im still better with i5 k version.

unless you have other proof.

it does not matter what i currently have as idea is what i can get.

gpu's been checked thoroughly on benchmarks at low end to high end resolutions.
 
jeckulz said:
Sorry, but nobody buys a g3258 to run stock clocks.
Go and check those bench mark ;)

And as for the 960 being benched as slower. Yeah maybe, but it will use a lot less power, and you're upgrading from what card again?
Either way, you would be happy. :)
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Yea no the i5 is still much faster
 
Yeah of course the i5 is faster.
But the OP asked for a 600 quid machine for gaming, and the pentium anniversary unit is plenty capable, meaning they dont need to skimp on other parts or blow the budget.
Games just wont load 4 cores, few even load up 2, lets be honest with ourselves, most of the AAA titles are just bad console ports anyway.

If a customer comes to me with 600 notes for a machine, I don't spec over that price.

If you had said
"Gaming, Encoding and Rendering Rig for £600 - £900 - Possible or not?" (You said 600-900 in your thread from last month, I just checked)
I'd have just said 4690K too, anyone would. And a better GPU and Mobo too.

Even then you aren't going to witness the benefits of having gargantuan frame rates without having a monitor refresh rate higher than 60 or 70 hz because those epic frame rates just won't be displayed.

The 280x is a good card too, I've got one and am considering a second.
I tend to recommend Nvidia to people because most people want Nvidia for some weird reason, and power savings cant hurt.

On and Samantha - I don't do bad advice. I advise based on requirement, I don't do over-selling.
 
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i rather have a powerful processor as its not just gaming i do. i intend to do compiling as well.

but i will apologise if your advice was meant in good faith. not here for arguments but advice on a pc that is not just for use now but later i would upgrade video cards or use sli/crossfire twin cards.

processor power is important to me thou and maybe i should have made that clear at beginning.


also had news waiting on money. budget now £1500. HENCE WATER COOLING MODDING.

so now with new budget i want a good cooling system as intend to overclock to the max and also modding as i want something that not only works but looks the part and center piece of my home.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI - Devils Canyon Core i5 4690K Bundle **£12 Saving** £265.98
1 x **B Grade** MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express G (GX-225-MS) £119.99
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - Black / Red £89.99
1 x SK Hynix 256GB SSD SH910A SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (HFS256G32MNB-2201A) £84.98
1 x Antec TruePower Classic 750w '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £72.95
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
Total : £706.38 (includes shipping : £13.75).



i think this case is compatible but cheap ??
 
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If you do intend on watercooling then I would suggest a better card than a 280x for a couple of reasons.
1- The 280x is nearly EOL, so availability will be reduced
2- WaterBlock availability for better cards (290x and gtx980 and such) is much better.
3- A single more powerful GPU will always give you better results than multiple lower power ones (Micro-stutter, performance scaling, developer optimisation for Multi GPU configs)

If it was my money, I would hold off until AMD drop the upper tier 300 series, or bite the bullet now and go with a gtx980 (and risk an Nvidia price drop to stay competitive with AMD - Which always happens)
 
£1500 watercooling , case , modding assistance.

i been putting off getting my pc for some time. however there is nothing to say i cant go ahead and start building now and do the modding which will be time consuming. just use the gt640 and wait a bit to see if there is a price drop. if not i will go ahead and buy anyway.

i plan to use water cooling and yes cover graphics card as will be testing overclocking of cpu and gpu. dont think there is anything much i can do with ram , i may be wrong.

i have never done watercooling before or modding so this is a steep learning curve for me. i assume i may need to change power supply. question are all power supplies sold now have removable interchangable cable sets.

was thinking as board is black mainly and a bit of red. going UV ultravilolet watercooling and same on fans and any other light strips led strips , cable modding ect.

so watercooling not only needs to be good for o/c but one that is good for display and can be altered with bendable tubing. can always add second graphics card later in life if it comes to needing 2 x gtx980.

i use my 3d hd 42inch tv as a pc screen but will also be getting 3 x 3d monitors for future use.
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK Tech Labs H2O Custom GeForce GTX 970 Mini ITX OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - XSPC Edition £320
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI - Devils Canyon Core i5 4690K Bundle **£12 Saving** £265.98
1 x XSPC RayStorm DDC Photon RX360 V3 WaterCooling Kit £259.99
1 x Asus VG248QE 24" Widescreen 144Hz 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Black £239.99
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - Black / Red £89.99
1 x SK Hynix 256GB SSD SH910A SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (HFS256G32MNB-2201A) £84.98
1 x Antec TruePower Classic 750w '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £72.95
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
2 x Koolance LIQ-702 Liquid Coolant Bottle, High-Performance, 700mL (UV Red) £11.99 (£23.98)
1 x Revoltec Cold Cathode 30cm Twin V2 - UV £7.99
1 x Bitspower UV-Reactive Smartcoil antikink 10mm - ruby red £3.98
Total : £1,452.47 (includes shipping : £22.20).




OK i think is is the base line of what i will get. I would like to know what else is required for the cooling system to work correctly. Also is the graphics cooler illuminated led ?
does the CPU cooler allow any led put in place. So what else would i need in way of fans/led replacing normal fans. any more uv lights , tuble spiraling orange on a blood red UV coolant. so colour scheme is orange / red / black / white.
Does the case i put down already have any water cooling installed in it. is there a better open case i can get and a bigger resvior for display purpose.

Please i really do need all and any assistance as i have never ever done water cooling before and never done modding either.

any advise and help welcome. i have the funds available and could go a few hundred over £1500 budget if i need to.

 
Waiting for the GPU price wars is a good bet, because it will happen.
Especially after Nvidia drop the Ti version of the 980 and AMD release their 390x

You may find that watercooling can be added later because modern CPU aircoolers and GPU coolers are super capable, great overclocks can be had on air. OCing RAM is pretty much not needed these days.
But in cases where the RAM is over 2ghz, many high end mobos have automatic settings to run the higher speed memory.

PSUs are now available with changable cable sets. These are refered to as 'modular' PSUs, you also have hybrid modular which have SOME removable cables, and non modular with all the cables hard wired into the unit.
If you want off-the-shelf cable sets, but a corsair unit with modular cables.
THey have the biggest choice of colours.

2560x1440 on a 27" monitor is a good pixel density to work with if you like a big screen.
Just remember if you want to SEE 120fps, you with need a 120hz monitor.
If you only want 60fps, you only need a 60hz monitor.

Ive no experience with 3d, but I dont tend to recommend it because it gives some people headaches


I just want to note, youre paying a lot of mind to the LOOKS more than actually getting the thing up and running.
Try to focus more on the function, the form can follow later.
 
ok so say get a system now. change gpu to standard then remove heatsink for watercooling block later. and install full watercooling later.
use a fan heatsink on cpu for now or a standard sealed waterblock and replace later when watercooling being done.


so i should get a case with big window side room for raidators and water system but that have fans in it now.

so what case and system cpu block would you suggest for now taking in fact that it will be replaced when full water cooling is installed later.

also i assume that any radeon or nvidia can be fitted with water blocks.

also what gpu would you suggest until price wars as i have a gt640 and its pushed to run things like total war rome ii on extreme on my 3d hd tv

b grade ?? r9 maybe.
 
Pick whatever case your gonna use for WC ,no need to buy a different one just now your certainly gonna replace in the near future.For a cooler just grab something cheap and capable ,again no point spending a lot of cash on soemthing thats gonna be replaced in a short span of time.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler £28.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler £24.97
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
Total : £83.56 (includes shipping : £8.00).






For something short term, a B-grade 7950/7970/280/280x would be a great,these are usually around the £80-120 mark when in B-grade.

An 8gb 290x is still a good choice for long term,especially if you plan on getting 2 of them.We dont know the price of the new AMD/nvidia cars due this year,but for the higher end stuff that would be a decent upgrade over a 290x/980 your lookin at atleast £400/450 minimum most likley

As for blocks,yea you can get blocks for Nvidia or Amd cards.Even if the card specific block isnt available or is EOL there are still universal blocks you can get that offer almost identical performance anyways(and are compatible with any GPU)
 
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