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Fantastic analysis of 970 VRAM issue from Eurogamer. Stress testing the 970 with FPS and frame-times

Hmm written by Richard Leadbetter, one of the main writers for Custom PC.

Is he freelance? or, has CPC done some sort of merger.

Any way, good article. Dat VRAM usage at 8xMSAA :eek:
 
TheRealDeal said:
Lmao at it's a non issue. It was an issue as people got refunds end of story.
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That doesn't mean it was an issue. I'd say the majority of people getting refunds did so to take advantage of the opportunity to get their money back on something that they'd already used. The mis-representation of the specs was wrong but it's obvious that it doesn't really affect performance in 99% of usage scenarios.

Doesn't excuse it mind but the reason put forward by yourself is nonsense.
 
Rusty0611 said:
That doesn't mean it was an issue. I'd say the majority of people getting refunds did so to take advantage of the opportunity to get their money back on something that they'd already used. The mis-representation of the specs was wrong but it's obvious that it doesn't really affect performance in 99% of usage scenarios.

Doesn't excuse it mind but the reason put forward by yourself is nonsense.
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Yea i agree it's still a good card but there are genuine issues with stutter in certain situations where had it been a true 4gb card there would not have been. There is people on these forums that changed to 290/x and gtx980's and felt the stutter was gone. I have seen enough from the internet to suggest there is a problem there but i can agree that it would not effect a lot of people.

I still think it's more than a non issue though however many people it may affect.
 
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TheRealDeal said:
Yea i agree it's still a good card but there are genuine issues with stutter in certain situations where had it been a true 4gb card there would not have been. There is people on these forums that changed to 290/x and gtx980's and felt the stutter was gone. I have seen enough from the internet to suggest there is a problem there but i can agree that it would not effect a lot of people.

I still think it's more than a non issue though however many people it may affect.
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]What situations? Again, it's just a post on a forum compared to hard evidence likes what's in the article. Digital Foundry have to push the 970 to ridiculous lengths to get stutter to appear. I honestly think it's a placebo for most people.
 
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for those who watched the video review bcos lazy like me :)
the conclusion of 1 card no problem, 2 or 3 in sli, think again
seems to mirror some other tests i saw

nice to see frametimes in sli tho, and you got to wonder how many of the complaints were ubisofts fault lol ><
 
Still waiting TRD.
The people noticing the stutter were noticing something because people said it was there, that's the nocebo effect, and they felt everything was smoother when changing due to the placebo effect.

The amount of people who sent their cards back, more of them were probably abusing the fact they could rather than because they had problems (not saying none of them had problems) It's no different to the PPI rubbish that's been about for a few years, how many were *actually* missold PPI, but how many claimed back under that pretence.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
And this is why AMD can never win :p

No...seriously :cool:
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Exactly this, even if it's a one off driver wait, AMD will be slated forever as having crap CrossFire support because of a 3 month wait for a new driver...

Nvidia ramgate, non issue despite SLi not able to play with playable settings forever, that's a riot right there.:p


970 still is an excellent single solution gpu still though, can't detract from that, gimped vram or not.
 
strokes 970 . still fine for a few years yet.

im waiting for newer games to come out to show what a non issue this is was and show its actually a very good card :D
 
tommybhoy said:
Exactly this, even if it's a one off driver wait, AMD will be slated forever as having crap CrossFire support because of a 3 month wait for a new driver...

Nvidia ramgate, non issue despite SLi not able to play with playable settings forever, that's a riot right there.:p


970 still is an excellent single solution gpu still though, can't detract from that, gimped vram or not.
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Yep i must admit this issue is far bigger than AMD waiting 3 month's to release a driver. Yet for some reason this has faded away and AMD are now back to having poor driver support lol. Nvidia witchcraft right there. We gimped your card and only told you after you bought or we will not release a driver until it's ready.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Yep i must admit this issue is far bigger than AMD waiting 3 month's to release a driver. Yet for some reason this has faded away and AMD are now back to having poor driver support lol. Nvidia witchcraft right there. We gimped your card and only told you after you bought or we will not release a driver until it's ready.
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Have you even watched the video? Laughing. 970 is a neutered product from launch, so we expect to be getting a lesser product regardless of the memory configuration. The video shows that these settings have to be physically forced upon, that is the whole nature of the video yet you still get some idiot pointing out these exclusions by time stamping them lol.

So stupid.
 
Silent_Scone said:
Have you even watched the video? Laughing. 970 is a neutered product from launch, so we expect to be getting a lesser product regardless of the memory configuration. The video shows that these settings have to be physically forced upon, that is the whole nature of the video yet you still get some idiot pointing out these exclusions by time stamping them lol.

So stupid.
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My point is everybody thought it was a proper 4gb card and it's not. It runs into problems where the gtx980 would not and either would the gtx970 if it was a proper 4gb card. people need to give themselves a proper shake if they think this is a non issue.

You should get a job in the government as they are always looking for good spin doctors.
 
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I must be overly tired.... why is this article definitive in any way?

They don't seem to be showing a lot of evidence, and didn't test a lot of games.

Plus, they only tested single card - and I am sure we all know you are less likely to see issues in single because you need to drop settings anyway in order to maintain playable frame rates.

Plus, they even stated that performance on SOM was far more stuttery on 970 than 980. An extreme case, but they noticed a difference.

And lets not forget, Nvidia simply should have played it straight with the specs. End of story. There's no excuse.

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oops, yeah am tired - it's in the video...

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Ok, so thats two games they say they notice a difference - but there's nothing to see here? Someone explain to my tired brain. Is this just a fluff piece?
 
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Fact is Nvidia sold us an 4GB card and what we got was 3.5gb, the article even points out the fact the 980 used up all 4GB whist the 970 is held at 3.5.

Games are only going to get more memory intensive and then we will see an 970 stutter fest more often.
 
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