Wanting to add on a graphics card to my AMD A-10-5800K APU?

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Hi there, a couple years ago I made a budget gaming build with the help of you guys..!(thanks!).. this is the build..

Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard
AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor
Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GBs 32MB Cache
Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply
Xigmatek Achilles II SD1284 CPU-Cooler - 120mm
Samsung SH-224DBBEBE 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter
Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit
Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black

I've been playing mainly Arma 2 (Mods) these past couple years which on low settings has been fine (30fps+). However today I have bought Arma 3 and have noticed my frame rate is struggling to even reach 30fps even with all settings on the lowest! :( I'm not too clued up about PC's and have heard words like crossfire and discrete been mentioned however I'm not quite sure what everyone is going on about!

If someone could help me out and help me find a solution and the best graphics card or whatever my best option is to upgrade my PC that would be amazing! Ideally I don't want to be spending £100's but if I know my options that would be amazing! Thanks again everyone! :)
 
Swap out your motherboard for a Z97, your cpu for an i5; upgrade your PSU to a 650w and buy a 290 GPU.

Then overclock your CPU (will require an aftermarket CPU cooler)

Lastly, follow some Arma 3 tweeks from the web to set the graphics up correctly... some of it is counter intuative... turning things to low means the CPU does the work, where you actually want them on high so the game has the GPU do the work.

You offload as much to the GPU to free up the CPU , which in turn will run the GPU even harder.

:)
 
Threepwood said:
Swap out your motherboard for a Z97, your cpu for an i5; upgrade your PSU to a 650w and buy a 290 GPU.

Then overclock your CPU (will require an aftermarket CPU cooler)

Lastly, follow some Arma 3 tweeks from the web to set the graphics up correctly... some of it is counter intuative... turning things to low means the CPU does the work, where you actually want them on high so the game has the GPU do the work.

You offload as much to the GPU to free up the CPU , which in turn will run the GPU even harder.

:)
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That will cost a lot more
 
Yarp!

But it is the price of Running Arma3, what can you do?


Could drop down to a Z97 + G3258 overclocked with a 280x I suppose, if all you care about is ARMA, its a great CPU for it.
 
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Thats a bgrade card, it is what the R9 280 (nonX) is today, the new PSU is because you need something a bit beefier I feel.
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Would that be able to run arma 3 mods like Overpoch smoothly? On what settings do you think? Like 50% graphics? Thanks or the reply man!
 
Threepwood said:
Yarp!

But it is the price of Running Arma3, what can you do?


Could drop down to a Z97 + G3258 overclocked with a 280x I suppose, if all you care about is ARMA, its a great CPU for it.
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Dayum lol! As long as I can play mods like Overpoch on like Medium settings with a constant 30fps+ at least, I'll be happy lol! Don't really wanna spend more than £150 either haha! What you think man? Is that first idea what you would recommend? Thanks for helping, really appreciate it!! :)
 
Those benchmarks are all well and good, if you are planing on playing single player.

Multiplayer is a different story. Esp on the larger maps.

In Multiplayer, after tweaking with a 7950 and a stock 1100T (very comparable to your A-10) the best we could get without sacrificing some of the visuals (as indeed you have to otherwise you see LESS fps...) was an average of 28FPS, on Stratis ('small' map) with +-20FPS and occasional lows under 10fps when things got really heated in battle.

Large maps like Altis took an istant 10 fps hit, which made half of it unplayable really :S or, not very enjoyable anyway.

So yeah, that is okay, and sounds like you will be happy with. You wont have to drop to 50% at all and it will run amazing compared to what you are used to.


But the same card with an i5k or a pentium k (G3258) at 4.4? After tweaking, most settings are higher, AND the framerates go up to an average of 40 fps with higher peaks, less dips and the heated battle dips just below 20fps.

Very playable and enjoyable on Stratis, but what the biggest difference that makes is when on a large map after taking the -10fps hit... the game is still totally playable with decent famerates (like the 30 you are after.)


At the end of the day, I'm sure you will enjoy what you have, I'm just defending my position :P I have over 800 hours on Arma3, and I've not actually played in 6 months while life has been busy and my best ARMA playing partner has been away paragliding in the far east... He is back very, very, very soon and we have a solid week of wasteland play booked in, woo...hooo.... can not wait. :P



This made me laugh at techspot:
Given Arma 3's advanced AI and sprawling environments, we expected the dual and even older quad-cores to flop as we saw in Splinter Cell Blacklist, Company of Heroes 2, Metro Last Light and Crysis 3, but we received pretty consistent frame rates, akin to our results from BioShock Infinite and Tomb Raider.
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I wonder why that was? *sarcasm off* :)
 
The youtube video was playing multiplayer.

Also, the benchmarks compared different CPUs and the lower intel parts were not streets ahead, indeed a 2c/4t i3 @ 3.3GHz was basically equal with the A10. Yes, the pentium can overclock, but so can the A10. Maybe you'd gain more (though the review shows AMD gaining more performance per clock when overclocking on FM2 than Intel gained) so it still seems like a sidegrade. Were he buying new I'd happily side with your suggestion but given he already has the A10 it seems pointless to move.
 
For arma,you need raw CPU grunt.An a10 is gonna massivle bottleneck that game i feel.

As far as gpu goes,a 7950 can run arma3 with very high graphically fidelity.
 
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