MILLIONAIRE Tory Cabinet minister refers to police as " plebs " - Police fabricate evidence

AlecR said:
So to sum this thread up...

Police hate the Tories, so exaggerated a tiny meeting with a Tory MP to get him sacked.
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You did notice the libel action, right? The one that says that actually he probably did says the words concerned? Hence you necro'd a thread just to put in a comment which is wrong?
 
AlecR said:
So to sum this thread up...

Police hate the Tories, so exaggerated a tiny meeting with a Tory MP to get him sacked.
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Indeed, your summary is surprisingly brief and wrong, misses all the twists and turns, the overall lies, the deceipt, and then the coupdeta as the judge threw another plot twist at the end.
 
If it had been poor ex cabbie tory cabinet minister refers to police as plebs it would have been treated as the ironic joke it would've obviously been meant as and probably avoided court.
 
AlecR said:
That's the point though, he doesn't actually know.

If you actually look at the CCTV evidence, I don't feel that there was enough time for him to call him the Police officer a "pleb".
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That's why I phrased my reply the way I did, beyond reasonable doubt is pretty meaningless after the word proven because proof is proof not evidence and loads of people get convicted without proof but on pretty sound evidence.
 
AlecR said:
Oh I see my mistake, apologies.

So do you think he did it or not?
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I don't care it was just a good laugh to me, I have no illusions about the police or MPs and I'm certainly not surprised that a public school educated tory mp might call a cop a muggle uh I mean pleb, or that a policeman might lie thinking a toff mp would call him a pleb. :cool:
 
thep02 said:
I don't care it was just a good laugh to me, I have no illusions about the police or MPs and I'm certainly not surprised that a public school educated tory mp might call a cop a muggle uh I mean pleb, or that a policeman might lie thinking a toff mp would call him a pleb. :cool:
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I believe that this is the view that the judge should have taken and thus should have thrown the case out.
 
IIrc the judge thought it unlikely that a cop would choose the word pleb if he was gona make up a bad word the MP had called him, I personally disagreed as pleb is a widely understood word, there's even a comedy called plebs about lower order Romans on tv so it's current.

However I also believe that the higher orders of British society do call us lower orders plebs when chatting amongst themselves, may be the judge just thought he should've got off his bike and used the other gate.
 
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