Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

Well I am one of the most anti-Islamic people on these forums and I think Israel as a state is a belligerent blight on the planet and on the Middle-East in particular.
 
So in your eyes criticising Israel is because of Jew hatred even though plenty of Jewish people live elsewhere and rarely get a mention.

it's thinly-veiled anti-semitism, yes. Paris is rarely get a mention? Not to mention the anti-semitism jews face everyday, their virulent hatred by muslims and the left, etc.
 
it's thinly-veiled anti-semitism, yes. Paris is rarely get a mention? Not to mention the anti-semitism jews face everyday, their virulent hatred by muslims and the left, etc.

No it's not. I have an abiding respect for the Israeli people, most are welcoming and open people. What I don't have is a respect for Likud and its Zionism or foreign and internal policies with regard to settlements and its Arab populations. There is a difference, a spectacularly large one, between being anti Semitic and being anti Zionist.

It crazy to think that everyone who is left leaning (I'm not, I'm a centerust) is anti Semitic, the same as believing anyone who is Muslim or criticises Israeli actions regarding Palestine are anti Semitic...that is just buying into the hyperbole nonsense that Likud want you believe. Give that far right groups in Europe and the U.S. are generally anti Semitic , what your saying is that everyone is anti Semitic unless they agree with Netanyahu.

Which is ridiculous.

As the only democracy in the region... interesting.

Simply being a democracy doesn't mean that the elected government is automatically to be supported in everything they do. Particularly in democracies such as Israel where there is a lot of under representation and rarely, if ever a majority voting block. The whole Jewish identity promulgated by Likud is also damaging Israeli Democracy and the treatment of its citizens and those it controls.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ans-under-its-control-cant-vote-10113950.html

A secular democracy with equal right for all peoples within its borders or a two state solution are the only reasonable solutions here, obviously each has significant hurdles...Netanyahu and his parties policy's a significant hurdle to both.
 
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was germany a democracy when Hitler came into power ?

indeed, a very weak one, though, and one with no real democratic foundation or firm beliefs in it, be that from the populace or those reigning.

You're not really saying Bibi=Hitler, right? Or treatment of Palestinians=Jews during holocaust.
 
Nope, you can criticise it all you like... doesn't change the motivation behind though.

Anyway, back to your muslim love-fest. :p

How do you know what people's motivations are, can you peer into there hearts?

Most people say it in there posts.

Unless you want to trust nobody and in that case why should any one trust your motives?
 
You know, I tend to believe you, however your stern defines of all things muslims makes you suspicious. :p ;)

I am critical of Muslims ideologues as well when the context of the discussion warrants it. Often I add much needed balance that is all. I have no time for Saudi Wahhabism or Salafism for example, and argue with certain posters about that quite regularly. Ask craterloads, I can be just a vehement in my attacks on muslim ideologies as I can in their defence..context is important.
 
You're not really saying Bibi=Hitler, right? Or treatment of Palestinians=Jews during holocaust.

No Hitler was probably a lot more honest about his intentions :p

you mentioned Israel as a democracy...almost as a shining example in the region.

Germany was a democracy when Hitler came to power.....should Israelies look upto Germany and Hitler as shining examples ?
 
How do you know what people's motivations are, can you peer into there hearts?

Most people say it in there posts.

Yes and in his posts Amnesia has constantly acted as a shill for the jihadis e.g. expressing sympathy for their motives, blaming western foreign policy as the underlying reason for every atrocity...
 
No Hitler was probably a lot more honest about his intentions :p

you mentioned Israel as a democracy...almost as a shining example in the region.

Germany was a democracy when Hitler came to power.....should Israelies look upto Germany and Hitler as shining examples ?



They are aren't they? Didn't he make a public broadcast just yesterday warning the "Arabs are voting"
 
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