Tips at restaurants
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i dont agree with tipping they should provide good service all the time as that is what they are payed to do if you get bad service then there not doing there job right
would you tip a paramedic or surgeon after they have done there job so what tip a waiter
would you tip a paramedic or surgeon after they have done there job so what tip a waiter
In the California, I purchased a $4 bear with a $5 bill.
No change was given.
Automatic tip
Whats the tax on beer? I assume it's like everywhere else and tax is added when you pay rather than included in the price
Paramedics and surgeons earn a damn sight more than a waiter, a waiters wage is set so that they have an incentive to earn extra by providing excellent service, do you think you'd get a good service in a restaurant if the waiter had no incentive to offer the best service.
If i was a waiter earning £6.50 an hour with no hope of any extras, i'd be pretty peed off and be looking for a different job with better prospects, then there would be no waiters to provide you a service in the first place! Then you'd have the even lower kinds of life serving you as the job centre would be filling these jobs that nobody wants with applicants who don't want to work but have to because their benefits are stopping. All mayhem would break loose, they'd be spitting in your onion rings, pinching chips off your plate etc, so, moral of the story, just tip your waiter to make them feel that their job is worth doing.
Paramedics and surgeons earn a damn sight more than a waiter, a waiters wage is set so that they have an incentive to earn extra by providing excellent service, do you think you'd get a good service in a restaurant if the waiter had no incentive to offer the best service.
If i was a waiter earning £6.50 an hour with no hope of any extras, i'd be pretty peed off and be looking for a different job with better prospects, then there would be no waiters to provide you a service in the first place! Then you'd have the even lower kinds of life serving you as the job centre would be filling these jobs that nobody wants with applicants who don't want to work but have to because their benefits are stopping. All mayhem would break loose, they'd be spitting in your onion rings, pinching chips off your plate etc, so, moral of the story, just tip your waiter to make them feel that their job is worth doing.
There will never be a shortage of people looking for a job, even if that job happens to be working as a waiter in a restaurant. The general idea with any minimum wage job is you don't do it long term if you wish to have a good quality of life so why should waiting be an exception to this? When I worked in a minimum wage job I worked to the best of my ability and there were never any potential bonuses waiting for me.
I'm not entirely sure the rest of your post is serious so I will leave it at that
Er, is this a "London thing"?
Who the hell tips in the UK? They get paid a wage, no need to reward people for competently doing the job their paid to do lol.
surely this is the outlook of all waiters all the time though?
or they might go mafia on you and spit on your onion rings? maybe they just ignore your table alltogether which is a much more pleasant evening anyway.Paramedics and surgeons earn a damn sight more than a waiter, a waiters wage is set so that they have an incentive to earn extra by providing excellent service, do you think you'd get a good service in a restaurant if the waiter had no incentive to offer the best service.
If i was a waiter earning £6.50 an hour with no hope of any extras, i'd be pretty peed off and be looking for a different job with better prospects, then there would be no waiters to provide you a service in the first place! Then you'd have the even lower kinds of life serving you as the job centre would be filling these jobs that nobody wants with applicants who don't want to work but have to because their benefits are stopping. All mayhem would break loose, they'd be spitting in your onion rings, pinching chips off your plate etc, so, moral of the story, just tip your waiter to make them feel that their job is worth doing.
don't want some guy brown nosing for a tip just puts me right of my meal! oh wait they don't do that anyway. they just expect a tip or should that be demand from the attitudes of some forum posters
In the right places, waiters can earn quite a bit with their tips included, they can easily top £12 / hour if they are good, i used to regularly when i worked as a waiter in my youth! I remember in one week i earned enough in tips to go and buy a technics AV receiver which was in the sales for about £200, that was in about 1996.
I was working in a resteaurant in the Trafford centre and had a section of about 12 tables to 'wait' on, those tables would turn over say on an hourly basis, and each table would leave maybe a couple of quid tip, some never tipped, throughout a service of say 8 hours, (12-9 with an hour break), if every table left £1, i could earn £96 a day in tips alone. (It wasn't always that much though, sometimes it'd be £20 or so, but my point is there. There is a real incentive to do my job the best i can for more wages, just like in any other sector, do your job well and you'll get rewarded by either promotion or pay rise, or in this case, tips.
A good waiter wouldn't be like that though, i don't know what kind of service you're getting!
A good waiter will be well out o your way until the moment you need him, he will do as you have requested and then bugger off again out of your way.
I never 'expected' a tip as a waiter, but i got them more often than not.
On the flip side, when i go and dine out, i will only tip if i've enjoyed both the food and the service has been top notch, if either fail, and i've not enjoyed my experience 100% i won't leave a tip. I'm paying for the whole experience after all.
The most important things to me are I get a good table out of the way of foot traffic and the food is good.
The waiter is irrelevant it could be a robot for all I care, tbh it's probably preferable
Robots aren't corrupt for a start
The future is coming and it's tipless
The waiter is irrelevant it could be a robot for all I care, tbh it's probably preferable
The future is coming and it's tipless
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Paramedics and surgeons earn a damn sight more than a waiter, a waiters wage is set so that they have an incentive to earn extra by providing excellent service, do you think you'd get a good service in a restaurant if the waiter had no incentive to offer the best service.
If i was a waiter earning £6.50 an hour with no hope of any extras, i'd be pretty peed off and be looking for a different job with better prospects, then there would be no waiters to provide you a service in the first place! Then you'd have the even lower kinds of life serving you as the job centre would be filling these jobs that nobody wants with applicants who don't want to work but have to because their benefits are stopping. All mayhem would break loose, they'd be spitting in your onion rings, pinching chips off your plate etc, so, moral of the story, just tip your waiter to make them feel that their job is worth doing.
do you know what the starting salary is for a paramedic ??
its a nhs band 5 that is around
£21k and you think of the responsibility they have.
they are having to fight just to get a 1% pay rise
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When I tip I do it begrudgingly, like I'm obliged to do so. What is service that goes above and beyond? Frankly, If someone can't take my order and deliver the food with minimum fuss then they're not a good waiter. I expect a good service by default.
When I do tip, since there is so little room for error/improvement in the actual service, I base it on the time it takes food to get to me and wether or not I think the food was good value. Unfortunately, I rarely come across a plate I feel I couldn't have produced myself.
When I do tip, since there is so little room for error/improvement in the actual service, I base it on the time it takes food to get to me and wether or not I think the food was good value. Unfortunately, I rarely come across a plate I feel I couldn't have produced myself.
That's about double a full time waiters salary, and a lot of waiters etc are on zero hour contracts so aren't even guaranteed a wage! Poor paramedics, sucks to have a guaranteed job and prospects for annual payrises, and a pension etc etc, and as you said, that's a starting salary of £21k, not to be sniffed at really!
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Wow, just £21k starting! Do they get rapid standard raises from that? Mate of mine is a postie, he told me outside London full time postie hours (39 hours) is ~£20k.
So a full time job that requires a lot more responsibility and up to 3 years in university with the necessary entrance qualifications to back it up earns more than a waiter on base wages? I'm really not seeing the problem there, you can't compare the two jobs. You mentioned being able to get £12 an hour earlier, if you assume a 40 hour working week you could match or surpass that £21k starting salary.
But we're not American, and even if we were that isn't really an explanation as to why.