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With Titan X, Nvidia Has Now Introduced 4 Unanswered GPUs

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With today’s more official reveal of the Titan X and its massive 12GB framebuffer, Nvidia has now introduced four unanswered graphics cards into the market since AMD’s Radeon 285 in August 2014, and these GPUs have targeted a broad consumer demographic, ranging from the $200 GTX 960 all the way up to the $999 Titan X.

That’s 8 months without a new desktop GPU product from AMD, nearly an eternity in the tech world. That’s 8 months Nvidia has had to continue eroding AMD’s market share. 8 months to steal away new fans, from the mainstream PC gamer all the way up to the ultra-enthusiast.

This adds some color to what we learned last month about Nvidia’s Q4 2014 market share. As a refresher, it signaled a record high for Nvidia, with discrete desktop shipments up 5.51% quarter-over-quarter, and overall PC graphics shipments up 2.9%. Meanwhile, AMD’s discrete desktop shipments slipped dramatically, down 15.97% from the previous quarter, with overall PC graphics shipments down 7%.

Let analysts get super granular with their explanations, but the reality is simple: AMD has nothing new to sell, and in a rapidly evolving landscape like this that’s crucial. That doesn’t mean its existing products aren’t worth your money. The Radeon 295×2 is an outstanding, liquid cooled enthusiast part ideal for 4K gaming, and less expensive GPUs like the Radeon 285 offer great performance for the price. But Nvidia keeps hitting us over the head with Maxwell’s excellent power efficiency and evolving graphics technologies like GameWorks. (What happened to “FreeWorks,” AMD?) They keep expanding their Shield ecosystem, they keep building their relationships with game developers. Not to mention their “Netflix NFLX +1.33% for PC gaming” streaming service GRID is preparing to emerge out of Beta when the Shield Console launches.


Where is the Radeon 300 Series?


I had a short conversation with an AMD representative about this situation, and their response was that they haven’t exactly been silent. Since launching their current stack of products (the R7 and R9 200 Series graphics cards), AMD’s contributed to the overall ecosystem with Mantle (which undoubtedly influenced DirectX 12), a more open solution to Nvidia’s G-Sync called FreeSync, the Catalyst Omega driver, and LiquidVR, a development platform for what will undoubtedly be a future battleground in the GPU space. These aren’t as forward facing to consumers, but they still impact the company’s bottom line.

AMD’s message to me was clear, saying they “have a commitment to giving our customers, partners, and game developers the best possible experience.”



But the GPU industry needs competition, and AMD’s new 300 Series graphics cards are overdue. While there’s been no shortage of rumors — even leaked benchmarks for the 390x — AMD’s been silent to the press. Judging by these leaks, I’m guessing they only recently briefed their AIB partners (the companies like Sapphire, MSI, and ASUS who infuse the GPU technology with their signature stamp, be it cooling, aesthetics, or overclocking), which is the logical first step before reaching out to the media.

Right now GTC is happening. That’s Nvidia’s own GPU Technology Conference. Last year, AMD’s guerrilla-style marketing was in full effect, snatching members of the press from outside GTC’s doorstep (voluntarily, don’t worry) and whisking them away in black SUVs to show them the Radeon 295×2. That card was a direct, and much cheaper competitor to the Titan-Z, a $3000 dual-GPU Nvidia had just unveiled. Obviously the underlying motive for AMD was to threaten the Titan-Z as early as possible using their historically strong price/performance advantage.


With today’s comprehensive reveal of the Titan X, a repeat performance seems unlikely. I imagine it’s a classic rock and a hard place dilemma for AMD. If they announce the 300 series now but don’t release it for several weeks or months, people won’t snatch up existing product in the channel, opting instead to wait for what’s new and shiny. But if they don’t announce, they obviously risk losing more market share to Nvidia.


Here’s the thing though: AMD’s Radeon 290x was a blow to GTX Titan owners, offering equivalent performance for a significantly cheaper price. Same story with the Titan-Z/295×2. At every possible turn, AMD attempts to undercut Nvidia, forcing the occasional price drop. As a marketing strategy, it seems to work well for them. Whether that translates into revenue is another matter. Right now the company has to, at the very least, give consumers a solid tease — some example of how their 300 Series may trump Nvidia’s GTX 900 line. A promise of performance, and a reason to hold off spending their money on Nvidia hardware. A reason to keep their hands out of their wallets until a new AMD alternative appears.

I won’t pretend to have a solution to this situation. AMD obviously has more market share information and relevant data than we have. But what I know with certainty as a tech reporter and someone constantly hearing this very concern from his readers, however, is that the time to challenge Nvidia is right now.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...an-x-nvidia-has-introduced-4-unanswered-gpus/

A long article but some very valid points.
 
A good read.

The point about hijacking punters outside GTC last year to show off the 295x2 and yet this year nothing nada (not even a driver...sorry couldn't resist :p) makes me think they have nothing anywhere near ready yet.
 
I honestly want to see AMD going toe to toe with nVidia and Roy Taylor promised that would happen and the fight was on. Jason does give some good points and the 290X was released and did beat the Titan in most games but nVidia respnded immediately with the 780Ti and that must have been a blow to AMD. I can see a repeat of that happening as well and whilst we wait for HBM on the 390X, I seriously hope it does beat the TX. If it does, sweet and well done AMD (and that is coming from an nVidia fanboy).
 
I honestly want to see AMD going toe to toe with nVidia and Roy Taylor promised that would happen and the fight was on. Jason does give some good points and the 290X was released and did beat the Titan in most games but nVidia respnded immediately with the 780Ti and that must have been a blow to AMD. I can see a repeat of that happening as well and whilst we wait for HBM on the 390X, I seriously hope it does beat the TX. If it does, sweet and well done AMD (and that is coming from an nVidia fanboy).

I was chatting with Roy about the 290X release and the rumours of the 780Ti's performance but AMD were unworried because they knew it was going to be really expensive (and it was). The 290X was still a great buy (and arguably a better buy than the 780Ti for 4K gaming), and I'm sure things will not be much different this time around.

Their biggest problem is what the article highlights, which is 4 new GPUs from nVidia without a response from AMD.
 
I was chatting with Roy about the 290X release and the rumours of the 780Ti's performance but AMD were unworried because they knew it was going to be really expensive (and it was). The 290X was still a great buy (and arguably a better buy than the 780Ti for 4K gaming), and I'm sure things will not be much different this time around.

Their biggest problem is what the article highlights, which is 4 new GPUs from nVidia without a response from AMD.

Agreed and a massive plus for the 290X was the 4GB 512bit bus, which when 4K was being used, it did beat the 780Ti and in most cases had enough VRAM. I know AMD have had to make cut backs but yer, 4 GPUs to none.
 
IF AMD think that a 390X announcement will hurt 290X sales i think they are mistaken.

An announcement of a £550 GPU a couple of months away isn't going to effect the £250 290X sales.

Its in a completely different price bracket, people who are looking to spend something like £600 / £700 on a single GPU are not looking at the 290X at all, not now not ever, what they are waiting for is the 980TI.
 
Problem with that is nVidia won't release the 980ti until AMD release the 390x.

nVidia have the market at pretty much every price point. They don't need to release anything now until they see what AMD do and counter it.
 
Problem with that is nVidia won't release the 980ti until AMD release the 390x.

nVidia have the market at pretty much every price point. They don't need to release anything now until they see what AMD do and counter it.

Right. so they have nothing to lose by releasing it now. (If its ready)

There is another war that AMD don't seem to be engaged in while Nvidia are.

Its the denial of sales, Nvidia keep pumping the market with new GPU's right when AMD get going with their last offering.
As a result AMD can't get a foot hold on the market because they are too slow to react, by the time they do react Nvidia are about ready with the next line up, so AMD are stopped from getting any sort of foot hold again.

Nvidia know the 390X will come, Nvidia are already talking up Pascal, the Titan-X has just been released but they ain't worried about losing sales by talking up Pascal.
They just want people to think Nvidia's HBM GPU is close enough to AMD's HBM GPU so that HBM interests will put off buying the AMD GPU and Wait for Pascal.

Thats Marketing ^^^^

AMD are so clueless they can't even see it, which is why they don't react.
 
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Right. so they have nothing to lose by releasing it now. (If its ready)

There is another war that AMD don't seem to be engaged in while Nvidia are.

Its the denial of sales, Nvidia keep pumping the market with new GPU's right when AMD get going with their last offering.
As a result AMD can't get a foot hold on the market because they are too slow to react, by the time they do react Nvidia are about ready with the next line up, so AMD are stopped from getting any sort of foot hold again.

Nvidia know the 390X will come, Nvidia are already talking up Pascal, the Titan-X has just been released but they ain't worried about losing sales by talking up Pascal.
They just want people to think Nvidia's HBM GPU is close enoght to AMD's HBM GPU so that HBM interests will put off buying the AMD GPU and Wait for pascal.

Thats Marketing ^^^^

Not often I agree with you Humbug but good post :cool:

I hope even the most ardent nVidia fans (like me) want to see the 390X beat the TX (in some games at least :p) and see sales fly. nVidia can charge what they like at the mo, as there just isn't viable competition but if I am honest, I don't fancy spending near a grand per GPU every 2 years, so get the edge back AMD and bring it on.
 
Right. so they have nothing to lose by releasing it now. (If its ready)

There is another war that AMD don't seem to be engaged in while Nvidia are.

Its the denial of sales, Nvidia keep pumping the market with new GPU's right when AMD get going with their last offering.
As a result AMD can't get a foot hold on the market because they are too slow to react, by the time they do react Nvidia are about ready with the next line up, so AMD are stopped from getting any sort of foot hold again.

Nvidia know the 390X will come, Nvidia are already talking up Pascal, the Titan-X has just been released but they ain't worried about losing sales by talking up Pascal.
They just want people to think Nvidia's HBM GPU is close enoght to AMD's HBM GPU so that HBM interests will put off buying the AMD GPU and Wait for Pascal.

Thats Marketing ^^^^

AMD are so clueless they can't even see it, which is why they don't react.

+1

AMD have great vision but fail in their execution.

The 390X could be amazing, but it also needs to be released as well. More time wasted is more time for Nvidia to gain share..
 
Well AMD lost me this year. I sold my R9 290 to a friend for a great price and Nvidia was the only logical choice really. When I had the 290 I always felt shafted and an after thought. When games were released they almost always ran better on Nvidia, and the games that were optimized for AMD still ran great on Nvdia. I had to mess around with RadeonPro for almost every game to get an optimal experience.
 
http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...aphics-cards-drops-dramatically-in-q1-report/

Q1 GPU total shipments could be 20-25% down since last quarter. AMD marketshare could be 18-19% as they not shipped new GPUs because the channels was full of brand new GPUs still not sold. Customers seemed preferred to wait for GTX 970/980 price cuts after AMD launch 380/390 series since 970 memory fiasco nonsense. So report said Q2 total shipments will fall further than Q1, that could translate AMD marketshare at 15%.

I don't think 390 and 390X will give a big boost in AMD marketshare when it will price at $699 and $799, they will be at enthusiast market like Intel Haswell E CPUs only have 1% CPU marketshare. AMD will have a massive issue if they cant sell 360/370/380 series like they did with 285 then they cancelled 285X. People either not interested to spend more money to buy new or rebranded products with same performance with new features such as FreeSync when they already has 7950/7970/270/270X/280/280X cards, really pointless to upgrade to 300 series.
 
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