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You'll do well here, getting into the swing of things already.
Hit by Lorry this morning! - Dashcam footage
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You'll do well here, getting into the swing of things already.
Apart from a couple of 'mavericks' I don't think people are disagreeing that the truck was in the wrong, simply pointing out that this is a good example of why non-fault accidents increase premiums.
There are drivers that would have seen a foreign lorry straddling two lanes and decided to hang back a bit and see where he went first and there are drivers who zip into the blind spot and make their turn assuming the lorry is going to behave entirely as it 'should' before getting tagged on the back end.
It's all very well being 'in the right' and driving as you think you ought to be able to but sometimes it's best to just let it go and let other people drive like knobs and avoid the potential for an accident.
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I have to admit I'm with the guys saying that the OP was partly to blame. The main reason being the 6 letter word everyone keeps using....ASSUME.
A certain phrase should never be far from the mind when driving, "Assumption is mother of all **** ups" regardless of whether the lorry was signalling braking or whatever lane he was, hell he could have screaming out of the cab that he was going straight on, the OP should have held back as due to the length of lorries they can take unpredictable lines at roundabout and corners.
A certain phrase should never be far from the mind when driving, "Assumption is mother of all **** ups" regardless of whether the lorry was signalling braking or whatever lane he was, hell he could have screaming out of the cab that he was going straight on, the OP should have held back as due to the length of lorries they can take unpredictable lines at roundabout and corners.
Good post. The foreign plates should have been a red flag but even a UK registered truck, same rules apply. I see this arrogance all the times on the road. HGVs are bigger than you. with greatly reduced all-round vision. Give them respect.
In the vast majority of situations,positioned correctly, you can keep a six axle artic within marked lanes on that type of road, I've crossed that junction a fair few times without needing to take such a swing, it's minor roads where predominantly such manoeuvres are required.
LHD truckers are blind on RHD roundabouts.
The op was already in the LHD drivers blind spot, once the truck started to turn right, his mirrors would have shown him the side of his trailer, nothing else due to the angle of the cab and the trailer combination.
The driver wouldn't and couldn't have seen the OP, all the more reason for him (the trucker) to have indicated and moved with extreme caution once he'd resoused he was in the wrong lane / about to go the wrong way.
Having looked at the junction on Google Maps, it's a very short stretch and when you consider that and then rewatch the video, it's as if the truck has started to move right (albeit without indicating), has seen a car approaching quickly and so abandoned the lane change (hence hovering over the lines) before himself assuming the car was going to straight line the roundabout and so hits the car when it actually turns left because he hadn't slowed enough to allow a car to turn in front of him.
Completely overlooked it was a LHD vehicle :S what I said before I guess only applies (in the same way) to RHD trucks.
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Didn't realise it was LHD.
Even in front of the Police the lorry driver in our accident pulled out 3 different cards/licenses with info on and when we sent photos of these to our Insurance we had missed 3 items out.
Even in front of the Police the lorry driver in our accident pulled out 3 different cards/licenses with info on and when we sent photos of these to our Insurance we had missed 3 items out.
Thought as much. So I can't really point the finger at the lorry 100%
I'm not sure what else he could have done
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These are the three documents the Police gave me to copy and the Insurance said they were the wrong three!
Perhaps Scania knows what was needed.
Perhaps Scania knows what was needed.
I call troll.
Failing that, the HGV driver has given no thought to other road users.
Does the OP drive an HGV, if so then second point about him knowing that an HGV has reduced vision is invalid.
I hope he doesn't get a penny either, that wouldn't even cover a single phone call to the insurance people..
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Having looked at the footage, the lorry looks like he's only moving over to the right to take the left turn more easily, since he moves back to the left before the OP has even reached him.
My personal opinion is that the OP deserves absolutely no blame nor even any 'should have foreseen it' comments, since the lorry moves back over to the left lane before he's even reached it and he's not travelling at an excessive speed.
If the lorry had stayed hanging over the two lanes I might have sympathised with that point of view.
These types of thread always draw a mix of opinions, but also in my opinion, for whatever reason, they tend to get an inequitable number of posts criticising the person that's posted the accident.
I also think that is the campest "****er" I have ever heard
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My personal opinion is that the OP deserves absolutely no blame nor even any 'should have foreseen it' comments, since the lorry moves back over to the left lane before he's even reached it and he's not travelling at an excessive speed.
If the lorry had stayed hanging over the two lanes I might have sympathised with that point of view.
These types of thread always draw a mix of opinions, but also in my opinion, for whatever reason, they tend to get an inequitable number of posts criticising the person that's posted the accident.
I also think that is the campest "****er" I have ever heard
.Wind your neck in
Oh here we go
Look at the cab on the lorry as OP comes up along side, its clearly pointing to the left.
Pretty much this..
The fact the OP ended up straddling the chevrons at the roundabout was more then I'd have needed to realise turning left in front of the lorry like that was risky (even if in the right).
The left exit has 2 lanes, the Lorry had been continually in the second lane the entire time, even if the lorry had turned left, the OP would still have been squeezed alongside him..
Still, my sympathy goes to the OP, you shouldn't technically have to drive so defensively all the time just because other idiots are driving badly, but I am a subscriber to the avoidable accident paradigm and the OP does seem to think he'd be more cautious in similar future situations.
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I smell a returnee. You understand personal insults aren't allowed here? In fact, keep on - the sooner you get perma'd the better.
That hurt? Are you made of China? 
I was expecting a massive smash, instead, I see a video of a lorry grazing a cars rear bumper. It's immediately made me want to go out and buy a dash cam. Oh no, wait, it hasn't...........
I think the fact the lorry wasn't indicating at all would have been enough to make me cautious, especially if it was foreign, but then that's why I haven't been involved in stupid, avoidable accidents like this
And to those feigning all lack of common sense that this would have been a LHD lorry. I would have to question if you yourselves should really be driving..
I was expecting a massive smash, instead, I see a video of a lorry grazing a cars rear bumper. It's immediately made me want to go out and buy a dash cam. Oh no, wait, it hasn't...........
I think the fact the lorry wasn't indicating at all would have been enough to make me cautious, especially if it was foreign, but then that's why I haven't been involved in stupid, avoidable accidents like this
And to those feigning all lack of common sense that this would have been a LHD lorry. I would have to question if you yourselves should really be driving..
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So, I was just going to ignore you, but that's just unnaceptable.
I trimmed down the video to length to reduce the upload time.
The video starts then as its when the 1 minute clip from the camera started, I also have me carrying out a 999 call shortly after the end of the footage. This was cut as it contains personal details being spoken.
I have explained my reasons for using that lane earlier in the thread. Judging the entirety of my driving on a single 10 second clip of a highly unusual incident is hardly representative.
So rather than fishing for a rise out of me (I have been here too long and seen too many trolls), how about you take a constructive approach and enter into the discussion like an intelligent and rational forum member?