Jeremy Clarkson suspended from BBC

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Chris Evans isn't funny. Clarkson is. And that's the single most important thing here. Without his wit, let alone his car knowledge, I just cannot see who else could replace him and keep the viewing figures high.
 
cheesyboy said:
That's pretty much the reaction a lot of people have to Clarkson. In that regard, he's perfect ;)
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Crucial difference being that Clarkson is at least funny, whereas Evans is just irritating. Clarkson is one of those people you'd probably want to punch in the face a lot of the time, but could also have a fantastic laugh at the pub with, whereas with Evans you'd just want to punch him in the face.
 
robgmun said:
It wasn't a mistake, it was a vital part of his role and not to arrange of hot food must have been deliberate to get a reaction
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Where is the source that says it was that producers job to sort catering? Just curious.

As an aside, JC physically assaulted someone at work. If we say that is OK because of all the money he makes, where do we draw the line? Is having a grope of his female fans/colleagues OK too? What about open racism/bigotry on set when the cameras are not rolling (or when they are)? Is that OK because, well, its JC and he is famous and makes the BBC lots of money!?

There is a basic standard of behaviour that people should meet, and likewise expect at work or in any other social environment for that matter. Freedom from prejudice and bullying along with knowing you will not be physically assaulted should be basic expectations in 99.99% of work environments.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for having a thick skin and making careful judgement on your behaviour based on those around you but assaulting someone? No sorry, that is unacceptable (unless your profession is a boxer :p ).

But lets say that it was the producers job to make sure steak was available - is it acceptable for JC to assault and verbally abuse him? I would say the producers right to a safe working environment trumps JC's right to have steak, what say you all? Whether someone is a Prima Donna or not is irrelevant, there are no excuses for physically assaulting anyone at work. None.

I could have some sympathy for JC if this was an instant reaction and spontaneous. But all the evidence suggests it was deliberate and sustained verbal abuse culminating in a physical attack followed by more verbal abuse.

99.99% of people would be sacked at the very least, and likely charged with assault, affray, disorderly conduct etc etc. I don't see why JC should be given a license to bully and assault colleagues simply because TG is popular and makes lots of money. That viewpoint is as reprehensible as his behaviour in my opinion.

The basis of a lot of the arguments in this topic appear to be " I love TG, and I don't want production to be stopped so I am happy for JC to do as he pleases and get away with it". Personally, I think there are a few moral compasses in this thread that are waaaaay off if this is how people are really rationalising JC's behaviour.
 
Sorry if this might have already been posted today.


"..and if you'll excuse me, I very desperately have to write the ebay listing for my ferrari" :D
 
Freefaller said:
The rhyme (heck I was taught that nursery rhyme as a child and only stopped using it when I realised what I was saying), the truckers joke, the Mexican jokes etc... I mean really? I've seen more offensive humour in an Amish town in America... What's happened to the British stiff upper lip, thick skin?
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David Schneider describes brilliantly the difference between comedians/comedy characters doing Un-PC stuff and the Top Gear blokes and why one is OK and the other is criticised...

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Tummy said:
No, but how many times does repeated mistakes continue as just mistakes? Clarkson's no stranger to making 'mistakes'. I don't think they are and are more to do with how he (and the producers) market Top Gear .

In brief, I think Clarkson is almost the stereotypical 'white, middle ages, right wing, conservative' and plays up to this a lot, and the production team attached to Top Gear view this as a marketing tool.

His continued 'blunders' aren't really 'blunders'. In the particular case you're talking about, the rhyme, well he himself admitted he should not have said it. Leak or no leak (and I usually have sympathy with these situations) you cannot work in the media and expect a mic to not pick something up.



Comedians that rely on offensive humour are rubbish comedians.



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You're welcome to come and explain that 'everyone knows' to my lecture group and you'll realise that not 'everyone' knows. Again, it shouldn't be called Chivalric behaviour, it should just be about being a decent person.

I'd hold a door open for you, for a female, or anyone else for that matter. If I was to be Chivalric I'd probably open the door and head butt the woman :p.
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We'll just have agree to disagree, which is fine by me. :)
 
He put the BBC in a difficult position, but he's a key part of their best show and that will suffer badly now.

I hope Sky snap him up. :cool:
 
Haven't been following this saga as the show got boring years ago, I'm taking it he will be off the tour shows? Bought stepdad a pair of tickets for to see it and doubt he would be as arsed with Clarkson, any announcements on refunds?
 
estebanrey said:
David Schneider describes brilliantly the difference between comedians/comedy characters doing Un-PC stuff and the Top Gear blokes and why one is OK and the other is criticised...

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I get what he's saying and it is fair. But I must admit I do find Clarkson et al. amusing and their humour although contentious pretty chuckle worthy. Yes it is daft prejudice based comedy but often prejudices are based on experiences or some form of truth? I guess that makes me a Neanderthal for enjoying it? I don't feel they are saying anything purposefully offensive just teetering on the edge of it but I must admit I do find it funny. Having been to Mexico I can accept and know that they are wrong (besides I love Mexican cooking!) But I can also appreciate where the stereotype comes from.
 
Freefaller said:
I get what he's saying and it is fair. But I must admit I do find Clarkson et al. amusing and their humour although contentious pretty chuckle worthy. Yes it is daft prejudice based comedy but often prejudices are based on experiences or some form of truth? I guess that makes me a Neanderthal for enjoying it? I don't feel they are saying anything purposefully offensive just teetering on the edge of it but I must admit I do find it funny. Having been to Mexico I can accept and know that they are wrong (besides I love Mexican cooking!) But I can also appreciate where the stereotype comes from.
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I like Top Gear and Clarkson, but I thought that Mexico sketch was one of the most unfunny things I've ever heard. Totally different to the usual TG humour and utterly bizarre - how can May say that Mexicans can't cook when Mexican food is one of the most popular types of cuisine in the western world?
 
I can't see it mentioned on the BBC website. But I caught they last few seconds of the BBC News and I'm sure they said "The BBC will have to reinvent the show and his two copresenters will go with him".

Can't find it anywhere else though?
 
scorza said:
I like Top Gear and Clarkson, but I thought that Mexico sketch was one of the most unfunny things I've ever heard. Totally different to the usual TG humour and utterly bizarre - how can May say that Mexicans can't cook when Mexican food is one of the most popular types of cuisine in the western world?
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I took that as a way of showing what a bumbling buffoon he is and playing up to the role?

It's like the furore over the truckers and prostitute thing - I mean it's clearly a joke... maybe I'm just simple.
 
iamdjdz said:
The only good car show on TV now is Quentin Wilson's Classic Car Show on channel 5. It's like watching him on Top Gear back in the day with the same cameramen, cars and production.
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Quentin Wilson is a slime-ball who sells dodgy used car warranties...
 
Hades said:
I can't see it mentioned on the BBC website. But I caught they last few seconds of the BBC News and I'm sure they said "The BBC will have to reinvent the show and his two copresenters will go with him".

Can't find it anywhere else though?
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James May has been pretty vocal on twitter for being 'unemployed', with his status now saying 'former presenter'.
 
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