Airbus A320 Crashes in Alps
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DM has this "Revealing details from the black box voice recorder, he said the co-pilot - named as 28-year-old German Andreas Günter Lubitz - locked his captain out after the senior officer left the cockpit.
At that point, the co-pilot uses the flight monitoring system to put the plane into a descent - something that can only be done manually.
Mr Brice said: 'The intention was to destroy the plane.'
The captain - named by local media as German father-of-two Patrick S - can then be heard asking for access to which he gets no response.
He knocks and asks him to open and then starts banging furiously when he receives no reply.
All the time, you can hear the co-pilot breathing, Mr Brice revealed.
He said: 'His breath was not of somebody who was struggling. He never said a single word. It was total silence in the cockpit for the ten past minutes. Nothing.
‘I don’t think that the passengers realised what was happening until the last moments because on the recording you only hear the screams in the final seconds’.
At that point, the co-pilot uses the flight monitoring system to put the plane into a descent - something that can only be done manually.
Mr Brice said: 'The intention was to destroy the plane.'
The captain - named by local media as German father-of-two Patrick S - can then be heard asking for access to which he gets no response.
He knocks and asks him to open and then starts banging furiously when he receives no reply.
All the time, you can hear the co-pilot breathing, Mr Brice revealed.
He said: 'His breath was not of somebody who was struggling. He never said a single word. It was total silence in the cockpit for the ten past minutes. Nothing.
‘I don’t think that the passengers realised what was happening until the last moments because on the recording you only hear the screams in the final seconds’.
Got to be careful of a knee jerk reaction.
If someone is that hell bent on bringing down a plane I think they will do it regardless...
Just googled the Co-pilots name...
http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html
Third Paragraph is ironic
http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html
Third Paragraph is ironic
Chilling, truly chilling. The motive to do something like that and take all of those lives is just shocking. If he was intent on downing it and waited until the Captain went to the toilet it makes you wonder if the door wasn't locked what would have happened if the captain had got back in, might have been a similar outcome of a fight or something but at least he would have had a chance to stop him.
The door locking procedure will no doubt be reviewed. He only had a few hundred hours flight time on the plane as well
The door locking procedure will no doubt be reviewed. He only had a few hundred hours flight time on the plane as well
Which have to make you think, could it have been an infiltration by an extremist group? Maybe something like mental health illness?
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Thing is though you can't prevent against everything, when you look back at how common hijacking once was it's difficult to argue against the case for secure cockpits
OK, so a recent jihadist convert then?
That is truly chilling
If it is, the I would expect that security inside the cockpit, would be looked at more carefully should this situation ever happen again. They need to ensure of a way that if by the slim chance that a pilot is locked out, and the current commanding pilot was to override any re-entry, there is a failsafe.
You would say "but when would this ever happen"
Well, it just happened.
But then take a look at how easy it is for people to convert. Then the risk is already in the cockpit, aswel as outside it
That is truly chilling
If it is, the I would expect that security inside the cockpit, would be looked at more carefully should this situation ever happen again. They need to ensure of a way that if by the slim chance that a pilot is locked out, and the current commanding pilot was to override any re-entry, there is a failsafe.
You would say "but when would this ever happen"
Well, it just happened.
[TW]Fox;27829135 said:Thing is though you can't prevent against everything, when you look back at how common hijacking once was it's difficult to argue against the case for secure cockpits
But then take a look at how easy it is for people to convert. Then the risk is already in the cockpit, aswel as outside it
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There's been no suggestion of an Islamic motivation to this at all. All previous pilot suicides have been unrelated to terrorism too.
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Wow. Horrible tragedy and the usual people jump on the anti-Islamic bandwagon. Way to respect the dead :/
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Because only a Muslim would do this sort of thing....or something equally retarded along those lines. There are some proper morons about on this forum, nobody knows his motivation for it but they are happy to jump on the reason being he must be Muslim.
Bottom of the BBC article even states:
...won't stop the morons though.
its seems to be an automatic reaction now days to any tragedy.. No facts? blame Muslims..
I don't think anyone has said this or are indeed blaming Muslims for this.
Let's just hope there is some indication of why he did this at his home in the form of a video or a note, something, anything for the families.
It does matter, what matters is that this will now be looked in to carefully, should a terrorist, or suicidal person have control of an aircraft, I would have no doubt that if a suicidal person was willing to lock the pilot out, and crash a plane with 140+ people on in the alps, whats stopping them taking it down and crashing it in a populated area?
That could have been avoided if a correct locking procedure would have been thought up, without any holes/flaws
Worrying thing is how long do you think he was waiting for this opportunity? How many short haul flights was he on where pilot didn't need to leave the cockpit for a toilet break or something?