Airbus A320 Crashes in Alps

I just can't imagine being a passenger on the plane.. watching the pilot trying to break the door down and then the 38000ft fast decent.. sod that.

Very scary indeed! RIP all of them. Very very sad.

I know on the news they say it looks like the co pilot was to 'blame'.
 
It doesn't look good anyway:-

1 - it's a controlled decent
2 - purposely locked the pilot out

The 2 points above means likely he was conscious and alive when the pilot came back from the loo/kitchen

3 - did not react to the banging on the door and continue decent

The conclusion one can draw is that he did it intentionally, not passed out soon as the pilot left the cockpit.
 
If, emphasis on if, he was depressed I think it would be very unfair to call him a murderer..

IF this is what happened he's a murderer. Screw depression and suicide he had to sit there for almost 10 minutes thinking about what he was doing. He would have the best view in the house for 10 minutes of the incoming mountains, then while the aural warning was screaming at him to pull his finger out he sat there after dialing in a collision. He would have seen the people boarding the aircraft that he would be killing.

If that happened he murdered them. As a pilot he would be fully aware how terrifying that terrain warning would be and he sat through it with innocent lives. I wish there was a sky pixie and a hell. He also will have clearly thought it through before hand.
 
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If the jet was going to crash, couldnt a mirage fighter do anything at all to alter its cause. Surely any action would be more positive

The other black-box, the Fight Data Recorer or FDR, is still missing. It records second by second all the movements of the plane – height, speed,trajectory – and the performance of the engines and other key equipment.
They dont have the full picture I guess
 
I wouldn't hesitate to call him a murderer.

Just my own oppinion

Indeed. The 'logic' of saying just cos he's depressed you cant call him a mass murder is ludicrous.

E.g if you have two people with knifes, guns etc and they kill someone is one a murderer while the other with 'mental issues' isn't? No, so you really shouldn't be excusing the co-pilot when he was in charge of the plane and willingly started the decent.

Nutjob or not, he's still a selfish **** for involving the passengers in his plunge into death.
 
Isn't time that planes altering their course/path/altitude drastically be taken over remotely?

Co-pilot is a murderer, no question about it. If the reports of crashing on purpose are true.
 
Isn't time that planes altering their course/path/altitude drastically be taken over remotely?

Will cost billions and take ages to fully implement. People often overestimate aerospace technology - remember that we still don't know where MH370 crashed.

Co-pilot is a murderer, no question about it. If the reports of crashing on purpose are true.

Agreed - very sad and very disturbing.
 
Sometime he want to be captian rather than 1st officer but best wait until experts find full finding before it come out.. i would think cockpit shoild be 3 than 2 with one sit at back with camera video on tablet to see who knock the door.. keep eye on pilot and co pilot as well.. also need find other way to bypass the door lock to let it open like break in..
 
Yea, they must come up with better security / access to cockpit. If the co-pilot was suffering from depression and he did crash the plane because of it then i would say he is definitely guilty of mass murder!
 
Will cost billions and take ages to fully implement. People often overestimate aerospace technology - remember that we still don't know where MH370 crashed.



Agreed - very sad and very disturbing.

Billons or not it still seems like the next step forward in commercial aviation.
 
Billons or not it still seems like the next step forward in commercial aviation.

Maybe, but it also introduces a potential new attack vector - hacking or physically taking over a ground station. I for one would still prefer a human being in charge of a plane I was travelling on, even with this incident.
 
I see easyjet are doing something about this

Two people to be on flight deck at all times for them now. Hopefully more will follow suit, and soon a requirement
 
I see easyjet are doing something about this

Two people to be on flight deck at all times for them now. Hopefully more will follow suit, and soon a requirement

Sensible move - I presume this means cabin crew will have to take the place of a pilot who needs a comfort break (i.e. go to the bog).
 
Sensible move - I presume this means cabin crew will have to take the place of a pilot who needs a comfort break (i.e. go to the bog).

They didn't say, could be cabin crew or could be an air marshall or something
 
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Surprisingly easy to avoid this disaster according to on air crew from an American airline. They said they have a three person rule, on trans-Atlantic flights they have three crew .. one on rest and two operational. If one wants to leave the flight deck the third must be there before the other leaves. If a short haul then a flight attendant is used instead so there is no chance of one person gaining total control.
 
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