EU: Don’t use Facebook if you want to keep the NSA away from your data

thep02 · 26 Mar 2015 at 13:51

mmj_uk said:
What if they have a ton of information relating to (for example) paedophiles in British government and rather than sharing it they use it for leverage and to dictate British political policy to suit their own ends? what if they did such things worldwide? it's already out in the open that they were spying on Angela Merkel. Do you trust they will never use the information gathered for negative means?

Agreed.

balky12 · 26 Mar 2015 at 13:52

mmj_uk said:
What if they have a ton of information relating to (for example) paedophiles in British government and rather than sharing it they use it for leverage and to dictate British political policy to suit their own ends? what if they did such things worldwide? it's already out in the open that they were spying on Angela Merkel. Do you trust they will never use the information gathered for negative means?

I would rather them have the information and use it to blackmail them rather than not have the information at all?

Or did I misunderstand the question?

new boy · 26 Mar 2015 at 14:10

I don't use it, don't like the idea of it, will never use it.

Narj · 26 Mar 2015 at 14:14

Don't have much choice but to use it because the main UK community for one of my hobbies is on there. However, I don't use my real name, date of birth or anything else on there and I don't post pictures of myself either.

arknor · 26 Mar 2015 at 14:43

balky12 said:
I would rather them have the information and use it to blackmail them rather than not have the information at all?

Or did I misunderstand the question?

what if a large corporation had this information and used it to be awarded generous contracts.
Maybe even an IT company

why would you prefer someone had the ability to blackmail anyway?

balky12 · 26 Mar 2015 at 14:48

arknor said:
what if a large corporation had this information and used it to be awarded generous contracts.
Maybe even an IT company

why would you prefer someone had the ability to blackmail anyway?

In that circumstance, was probably a bad example.

I was under the impression this thread was about the NSA having private information vs it not having it at all.

In the example given I would rather the NSA know about paedos but blackmail them, than not know at all.

Ideally I would rather them know about it and let right people know...

If that makes sense?

Muz333 · 26 Mar 2015 at 15:28

I've never used it but I'm quite confident it would be easy enough to find out who I am through various accounts on forums and my publishments.

You would have to go to extreme measures to protect all personal information online. Even then what's to say they don't use some secret backdoor on your CPU to find out everything about you.

jl10000 · 26 Mar 2015 at 18:19

I keep reading posts on here about how the UK and USA are the last bastion of freedom when it comes to the press, how wonderful our democracy is. These things do not exist when the state uses mass surveillance

I wouldn't mind so much if I could see what the government were up to, but that is protected by "national security", along with all the paedophiles in Westminster :cool:

arknor · 26 Mar 2015 at 18:33

jl10000 said:
I keep reading posts on here about how the UK and USA are the last bastion of freedom when it comes to the press, how wonderful our democracy is. These things do not exist when the state uses mass surveillance

I wouldn't mind so much if I could see what the government were up to, but that is protected by "national security", along with all the paedophiles in Westminster

the internet needs to stop being seen as separate from the real world and the same protections need to cover both.

people would never let the stuff that happens to digital data happen in the real world.

Andreas.96 · 26 Mar 2015 at 18:48

arknor said:
the internet needs to stop being seen as separate from the real world and the same protections need to cover both.

people would never let the stuff that happens to digital data happen in the real world.

This. People need to realise (as some already have, I'm sure) that having online privacy is as important as having privacy in your own home. Just because you 'don't have anything to hide' doesn't mean you shouldn't be worried about someone building up a profile on you.

russell664 · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:21

FTM said:
I am sure they like the photos of my whisky collection

Can I has some?