Jeremy Clarkson suspended from BBC

Tummy · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:51

OldCoals said:
Where has it been established the the producer didn't do his job properly?

Castiel's mind.

Castiel · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:52

Tummy said:
No, there was food available to Clarkson, he wanted a specific meal, that is not the producers fault.

Yes it is. His job is to ensure the wants of his charges are met. They were not.

Tummy · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:53

Castiel said:
Yes it is. His job is to ensure the wants of his charges are met. They were not.

:faceplam:.

Producer is not to blame.

Castiel · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:54

Caged said:
Lmao, you're hilarious.

I seriously doubt a producer of ten years on the show is directly responsible for the lack of Clarkson's particular choice of meal.

In ten years you would think he would know better. Even less excuse not to know and foresee his charges needs better. More reason to discipline him.

Castiel · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:55

Tummy said:
:faceplam:.

Producer is not to blame.

For not ensuring hot food and the needs of his charge is met, he is.

Caged · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:55

One day I hope I'm as perfect as you are

Tummy · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:56

Castiel said:
In ten years you would think he would know better. Even less excuse not to know and foresee his charges needs better. More reason to discipline him.

Clarkson should have hit him harder eh? Y'know because his charges needs were not met and he needed to be disciplined.

Castiel · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:56

Tummy said:
Clarkson should have hit him harder eh? Y'know because his charges needs were not met and he needed to be disciplined.

Clarkson shouldn't have hit him at all.

Simply told the BBC to replace him.

Castiel · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:57

Caged said:
One day I hope I'm as perfect as you are

That isn't going to happen. Know your limits.

Tummy · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:57

Castiel said:
Clarkson shouldn't have hit him at all.

Simply told the BBC to replace him.

. Replace him over the lack of steak available late at night?

Absolute gold.

Caged · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:59

Castiel do you think producer means runner or something? You don't replace a producer of a very successful show over the lack of a steak.

Danthus · 29 Mar 2015 at 22:59

Castiel said:
Clarkson shouldn't have hit him at all.

Simply told the BBC to replace him.

One simply tells the BBC what to do!

Tummy · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:00

Caged said:
Castiel do you think producer means runner or something? You don't replace a producer of a very successful show over the lack of a steak.

NO IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE PROCUDERS FAULT TO PROVIDE STEAK AT ANY TIME OF DAY.

Castiel · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:00

Tummy said:
. Replace him over the lack of steak available late at night?

Absolute gold.

Indeed. In a 5 star hotel it isn't difficult to arrange late night meals of any type.

Danthus · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:00

Caged said:
Castiel do you think producer means runner or something? You don't replace a producer of a very successful show over the lack of a steak.

You do when you are in a hole and can't stop digging.

Tummy · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:01

Castiel said:
Indeed. In a 5 star hotel it isn't difficult to arrange late night meals of any type.

It depends on the hotel and stock

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Castiel · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:01

OldCoals said:
One simply tells the BBC what to do!

They do when they have editorial and production control as Clarkson and his partner did. He simply tells Wilman to reassign or replace the people assigned to him.

RetiredGreyFox · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:03

Castiel said:
Not really. They simply aren't a bunch of pansies who need to go to A&E over a fat lip. They are capable of standing up for themselves and accepting that sometimes stress, tiredness, frustration and difficult long hours sometimes means tempers are lost and punches get thrown. They are big enough men to defend themselves and accept apologies when they come also.

I don't like to agree with Castiel but me & him are a similar age and came through a similar work related lifestyle.
I was an Apprentice in 1974 but was sent to the main factory in 1976 and some of the rituals we had to endure would probably put the bullies into Prison nowadays.
I worked on factories for 33 years in total, saw 100s of fights but never once saw anybody sacked because we weren't pansies and it was settled over a pint. When a fight broke out the Managers/Team Leaders would look the other way until the workers sorted it.
The best fight I had was ending up with a black eye, bloodied nose and my t-shirt completely ripped off but my workmate bought me a new one and we continued to be mates. I also accepted it wasn't a one-sided argument but I came worse off.
It's a sign of the times that people will complain and make claims for anything and it's quite sickening how we got to this point.

AFAIK, the Producer was obviously a mate of Clarkson's for the last 10 years and also didn't complain either so good on him.

Tummy · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:04

Dimple said:
I don't like to agree with Castiel but me & him are a similar age and came through a similar work related lifestyle.
I was an Apprentice in 1974 but was sent to the main factory in 1976 and some of the rituals we had to endure would probably put the bullies into Prison nowadays.
I worked on factories for 33 years in total, saw 100s of fights but never once saw anybody sacked because we weren't pansies and it was settled over a pint. When a fight broke out the Managers/Team Leaders would look the other way until the workers sorted it.
The best fight I had was ending up with a black eye, bloodied nose and my t-shirt completely ripped off but my workmate bought me a new one and we continued to be mates. I also accepted it wasn't a one-sided argument but I came worse off.
It's a sign of the times that people will complain and make claims for anything and it's quite sickening how we got to this point.

AFAIK, the Producer was obviously a mate of Clarkson's for the last 10 years and also didn't complain either so good on him.

Times change. It really is as simple as that.

Violence at work is not acceptable.

Caged · 29 Mar 2015 at 23:06

Right, except none of that is relevant at all in the BBC which isn't a factory, in 2015 which isn't the 1970s, and I'm going to assume the company you worked for didn't have a permanent target painted on its back, attracting flack from all parts of the political spectrum and after Savile etc. needs to be whiter-than-white.

People witnessed Clarkson hitting a producer, if you really think he could have had his contract renewed after that you are deluded.

I know people have said they aren't trying to justify Clarkson's outburst, but a lot of posts sound awfully similar to that.