Hit by Lorry this morning! - Dashcam footage

ubersonic · 31 Mar 2015 at 16:57

Maccy said:
Jog on

Such language :O

Totally gonna report you, to yourself XD

Malt_Vinegar · 31 Mar 2015 at 20:00

Scania said:
Not having the best of luck with cars are you malt? In both driving and choice of company steeds :/

I suppose, but I want to change my priorities a bit now I have a family, buying a house again and generally settling down. The Jag is great (genuinely the best car I have ever owned) but its costing me in fuel, repayments and depreciation. So I figure a few years in a company nag will set me up again for later when I need to scatch the itch.
We also have an 07 A4 s line quattro special edition 2.0 tsfi for me to borrow if I feel the need for a hoon, and I have my classic MG and bike for tinkering purposes.
So its not all bad

Aston998 · 3 Apr 2015 at 11:20

How's the repair going? you got your car back yet?

Malt_Vinegar · 3 Apr 2015 at 13:31

Car has been assessed.
£2720 for the repair.
With bank holidays I expect it won't be ready any time before Friday at the earliest.

norm · 3 Apr 2015 at 17:52

Malt_Vinegar said:
I agree, perhaps if he had been indicating, it might have been something i should have spotted, but without that I had no idea!

Driving around it at speed didn't exactly help then.

Showboat said:
Lorries fault, but you haven't done much to avoid an accident, from the first second of that video the lorry is using part of both lanes and you move over to occupy part of the third lane..

My impression as well, it wasn't clear what the lorry was doing, that fact it's foreign I would have considered it even more unpredictable and therefore stayed behind it, and that's before you factor major blind spots with the lorry driver being on the left hand side of the cab.

Scania · 3 Apr 2015 at 21:15

Malt_Vinegar said:
Car has been assessed.
£2720 for the repair.

Malt_Vinegar · 3 Apr 2015 at 21:23

norm said:
Driving around it at speed didn't exactly help then

My impression as well, it wasn't clear what the lorry was doing, that fact it's foreign I would have considered it even more unpredictable and therefore stayed behind it, and that's before you factor major blind spots with the lorry driver being on the left hand side of the cab.

What I am genuinely interested in hearing, as quite a few peeps are saying this, is that what would your opinion be if I had been in lane 3 going straight on and been pinned into the roundabout by the lorry driver?
Same opinion, or totally understandable?

muon · 3 Apr 2015 at 22:00

If the lorry had been signalling right, I'd have blamed the OP.

The lorry cannot be in the right lane to get around that island.

As others have said though, I wouldn't be getting into accidents like that.

Orionaut · 3 Apr 2015 at 22:19

Malt_Vinegar said:
What I am genuinely interested in hearing, as quite a few peeps are saying this, is that what would your opinion be if I had been in lane 3 going straight on and been pinned into the roundabout by the lorry driver?
Same opinion, or totally understandable?

As I have implicated earlier.

Either stay behind, or ensure one is well ahead of, HGV's (Or is it LGV's these days)

I certainly wouldn't contemplate attempting to "Pass" one in the middle of a junction.

Serious defensive driving failure here.

muon · 3 Apr 2015 at 22:31

Also, has your insurance company actually managed to contact the third party insurer?

Trig · 4 Apr 2015 at 00:04

muon said:
The lorry cannot be in the right lane to get around that island.

Yes it can, we have a lorry driver in this thread that says it is perfectly possible to get round that roundabout and stay in lane, and if the lorry driver was turning he should have been signalling his intent, he wasn't, he was in the left lane, and at the point the OP passed him you can see the cab is aiming left, the lorry driver probably decided at the last minute he was in the wrong lane and tried to correct, by which point the OP was in the blind spot.

While the OP could have done thing differently to avoid the incident the blame for this clearly lies with the lorry driver.

hawker1986 · 4 Apr 2015 at 07:13

It really continues to amaze me that people are still giving this lorry driver any sort of support. Its all well and good saying something is avoidable by the OPs driving but theres no reason to avoid something that shouldn't have happened. If hes foreign he should still know better. We now even have Scania telling us he shouldn't have been in that lane to make the turn. Its clear this guy got in the wrong lane and decided hed take his massive and dangerous vehicle across any number of lanes with no regard for someone who was doing something entirely appropriate despite being in his blind spot.
Theres really no excuse to do something so dangerous, what if there was a motorbike there rather than a car, we could have had a fatality rather than a damaged bumper. Why couldn't he have made his mistake and just rerouted a bit up the road which would have been safe? Just laziness.

Kenai · 4 Apr 2015 at 08:01

Nobody is giving the lorry driver any support, just that there IS a reason to avoid something that shouldn't have happened. That reason being you don't get crashed into by a muppet that can't drive by simply driving with a bit more caution when approaching a foreign lorry straddling two lanes approaching a roundabout, rather than accelerate into its blind spot.

Orionaut · 4 Apr 2015 at 11:24

Kenai said:
Nobody is giving the lorry driver any support, just that there IS a reason to avoid something that shouldn't have happened. That reason being you don't get crashed into by a muppet that can't drive by simply driving with a bit more caution when approaching a foreign lorry straddling two lanes approaching a roundabout, rather than accelerate into its blind spot.

Quoted for truth!

ALL accidents are 50/50 unless there is a very good reason to suggest otherwise.

One has a duty of care not to screw up, but one also has a duty of care to be aware of other peoples screw ups and to take mitigating action where appropriate.

For the most part the insurance business takes account of this (non-fault accidents will still up your premium) It is about time the law did too.

ALL parties involved in an accident will have had a part to play.

While most accidents have an instigator who made an error, the thing that typically turns an error into an actual collision is the "Victims" sense of entitlement and unwillingness to take mitigating action.

mattyg · 4 Apr 2015 at 11:31

Orionaut said:
ALL parties involved in an accident will have had a part to play.

While most accidents have an instigator who made an error, the thing that typically turns an error into an actual collision is the "Victims" sense of entitlement and unwillingness to take mitigating action.

I played my part by stopping at a red light for 20secs before being rammed from behind.

Of course all parties had a part to play. Had I stayed at home he wouldn't have hit me

Outcast · 4 Apr 2015 at 11:51

mattyg said:
I played my part by stopping at a red light for 20secs before being rammed from behind.

Of course all parties had a part to play. Had I stayed at home he wouldn't have hit me

I don't know about "These days" but that was the EXACT philosophy that applied to "P - Platers" in Australia.

It didn't matter if a piece of the sky fell on your car. You were there so you were complicit !! ("P-Platers")

Orionaut · 4 Apr 2015 at 12:11

mattyg said:
I played my part by stopping at a red light for 20secs before being rammed from behind.

Of course all parties had a part to play. Had I stayed at home he wouldn't have hit me

That might well qualify as a "Very good" reason.

Mind, OTOH, did you look in your mirror after you had stopped?

Were you aware that the other driver was approaching a bit sharpish?

Did you have your foot on the brake (Illuminating your brake lights) or did you pump the pedal to warn him?

You may think I am going a bit far on this but this is all stuff I have done in the past in order to minimise the chances of being run into.

There is almost always something that you can do...

Sin_Chase · 4 Apr 2015 at 17:59

Defensive driving is actually quite, dare I say it, fun ;x

Anyone can drive fast. Takes some thought to actually read the road and other drivers. There is a certain sense of satisfaction when you read a situation, pre-empt someone else's actions, take preparatory steps and then they go and do it.

Malt_Vinegar · 4 Apr 2015 at 19:33

muon said:
Also, has your insurance company actually managed to contact the third party insurer?

I missed this, yup, we had contact details for their UK insurance office within 24hours.

Sindri · 4 Apr 2015 at 19:39

Orionaut said:
That might well qualify as a "Very good" reason.

Mind, OTOH, did you look in your mirror after you had stopped?

Were you aware that the other driver was approaching a bit sharpish?

Did you have your foot on the brake (Illuminating your brake lights) or did you pump the pedal to warn him?

You may think I am going a bit far on this but this is all stuff I have done in the past in order to minimise the chances of being run into.

There is almost always something that you can do...

I'm guessing your job is based upon safety risk mitigation?

That post sounds like the endless number of safety bulletins I'm subjected to at work when anything goes wrong, with numerous root causes that senior managers seem to force upon a situation to ensure it's the 'innocent' employee's fault.