Just my experience.
Evicted a few lowlifes and helped friends do similar.
I have similar experience too. At one house they must have decided to move out mid breakfast. Left most of it there too...........
Notice period for tenant with no contract/lease?
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I have similar experience too. At one house they must have decided to move out mid breakfast. Left most of it there too...........
I'm currently buying a house and the people I'm buying off are moving into one of their other properties that has tenants. They've served a s21 to them and I kinda feel bad for them.
Not bad enough to pull out of the sale though
dont feel bad.. change is good
but just hope they have served the section 21 notice with all the i's dotted and the T's crossed..were just waiting for our 3rd section 21 notice as the first 2 were incorrect which has legally has given us 3 months longer in the property than we expected
1st one was posted to the wrong adress.. lol
2nd one was a copy of the first with the same dates = gave us ~5 weeks notice to move out = wrong.. start again lol
we have a nice house to move into but its much cheaper rent here, so we'l stay untill they get the notice served correctly
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Just my experience.
Evicted a few lowlifes and helped friends do similar.
Which is illegal, you can ask a tenant to leave with the proper notice, if they don't you need a court order, to evict them yourself is illegal eviction and is a criminal matter
yo dude, you deelin wiv a badass mofo illegal dude right there brah..
yous need to step back from arguin with that badass or he gonna go gangbang yo sorry ass
i think you should appologise to him before he rains the pain down on your sorry ass
dont feel bad.. change is good
were just waiting for our 3rd section 21 notice as the first 2 were incorrect which has legally has given us 3 months longer in the property than we expected
1st one was posted to the wrong adress.. lol
2nd one was a copy of the first with the same dates = gave us ~5 weeks notice to move out = wrong.. start again lol
we have a nice house to move into but its much cheaper rent here, so we'l stay untill they get the notice served correctly
That is pretty dubious too, yup you can do it but why cause people an issue over a technicality. Both parties are entitled to end the tenancy as per the contract. Why not just go instead of causing problems? The section 21 is required for legal purposes but surely the landlord deciding to end the tenancy and giving the correct notice in itself ought to be enough for most people if they're being reasonable. Staying because they've made some admin error when serving the notice isn't particularly reasonable.
1- Remove items ofsaid "tenant" while not there.
2- Change locks
3- Said "tenant" becomes angry and starts legal action
4- Claim you have never seen said "tenant"
5- ???
6- Profit??
That would be very unreasonable and potentially illegal so just be aware of the risks.
Would be better to have a word with the 'tennant' and try to come to an agreement in a civilised manner. If I was a landlord (I'm not) and I thought the person was going to be a pain then I'd potentially consider doing a deal with them to prevent any fuss, knock off some bills or even tell them they can just pay half the rent that month if they're out by the end of it etc..
If they were likely to be a pain after speaking to them and you were to do something a bit more questionable like changing the locks a month down the line then it is pretty risky, you may get away with it if you can claim they were a lodger, if you've always had access to the room and they've not had exclusive occupation you might be able to. Helps if you've provided services too like cleaning, changing sheets. Tis your word against theirs in the end (maybe they did have weekly cleaning from your brother) and if they are counted as being a 'lodger' then the rules regarding eviction don't apply - only 'reasonable notice' is needed and you're permitted to change the locks and get rid of them peaceably without needing to take any expensive court action.
I can't wait until you and your buddy JaWalks try to do that to the wrong person. You'll either find yourself flat on your back in hospital or in jail for illegal eviction. You'd fully deserve both with an attitude like that.I have similar experience too. At one house they must have decided to move out mid breakfast. Left most of it there too...........
in our perticular case, we rent a flat above a shop, we pay our rent to the shop as they are the lease holder, the shop moved and told us we were ok to stay, last month we contacted the old shop owner to make sure we were still ok to stay... they said no, and that we were issued a section 21 notice one month prior to that which left us with < 5 weeks to move out.. but we didnt receive such notice.. they then checked their records and admitted they sent it to the wrong address (lol? but true), they then re issued the notice which we received but it still had the old dates on which then gave us < 3 weeks to move out..
im sorry but weve lived here for 15+ years, always paid our rent on time, never caused a fuss or asked for anything to be fixed in our flat,
were happy to go when they serve proper notice, which if they did it now will give us untill the end of June
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If you do ultimately need to evict, you'll need a valid section 21.
Just be aware that a section 21 served will be invalid as long as you hold any deposit that wasn't placed in a recognised scheme in the required time frame, backed up with the correct paperwork detailing it to the tenant. You cannot place it in one now and then serve a section 21 expecting it to be valid Additionally, if the tenant took legal action over that point you could be liable for up to 3x the deposit value.
If that is the case, although it seems counter productive the first thing to do would be to return the tenants deposit in full, then serve correct notice and a valid section 21. If the tenant in the meantime decides or agrees to leave of his own accord before the notice period it is all well and good, however you may find yourself two months from now with him refusing to go and you having not started the valid legal eviction process.
Just be aware that a section 21 served will be invalid as long as you hold any deposit that wasn't placed in a recognised scheme in the required time frame, backed up with the correct paperwork detailing it to the tenant. You cannot place it in one now and then serve a section 21 expecting it to be valid
Additionally, if the tenant took legal action over that point you could be liable for up to 3x the deposit value.If that is the case, although it seems counter productive the first thing to do would be to return the tenants deposit in full, then serve correct notice and a valid section 21. If the tenant in the meantime decides or agrees to leave of his own accord before the notice period it is all well and good, however you may find yourself two months from now with him refusing to go and you having not started the valid legal eviction process.
think it is mentioned earlier that this tenant/lodger didn't give a deposit
hopefully as it is attached to the house the brother still had access and this person didn't have exclusive occupation... which might make things easier and take away the requirement for a section 21
I think if I was renting out a granny flat/room above a garage etc.. I'd want to take a few extra steps like providing a cleaner and maintain the right to enter the room at will etc.. to avoid the lodger becoming a tenant.
hopefully as it is attached to the house the brother still had access and this person didn't have exclusive occupation... which might make things easier and take away the requirement for a section 21
I think if I was renting out a granny flat/room above a garage etc.. I'd want to take a few extra steps like providing a cleaner and maintain the right to enter the room at will etc.. to avoid the lodger becoming a tenant.
Hey I never said I'd done anything like that. Just that I had seen it.
Seen it because the wrong type of person owned the house. And we were the decorating crew coming in afterwards.
So wind ya neck in.
No, the contract ended on the saturday. After being messed around by the van rental it took longer than we thought and we gave up packing for the night around midnight saturday and when i came back to carry on sunday afternoon (the letting agent had been closed this whole time so unable to let them know) cleaners had already been in and done the place, presumably for them to rent out to new tenants on the monday.
Even though my contract had ended, the fact i hadn't fully moved out meant it defaulted to a monthly rolling contract instead and they needed a court order to be legally allowed to remove myself or my belongings. They didn't have this so i had them by the balls to claim damages for all the clothes and computer parts etc they had put in a bin under all the leaky bags of general kitchen waste. We even charged them the £50 for the keys that they had requested we pay them because the keys weren't handed in on time.
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Even so, wouldn't that 'verbal contract' be with the original owner who is now deceased?
Except the current owner has accepted rental payments already...
he would be registered there...have mail addressed to him, bills and stuff
bank statements, drivers license that kind of thing
1- Remove items ofsaid "tenant" while not there.
2- Change locks
3- Said "tenant" becomes angry and starts legal action
4- Claim you have never seen said "tenant"
5- ???
6- Profit??
7- Tennant takes you to court. Turns out they were registered to vote at that address, have umpteen bills with their name and that address on, and are able to supply other evidence (e.g. Facebook check-ins, photos, testimony from friends of theirs) as evidence that they did in fact live there. The Judge concludes that you were in fact lying when you said you'd never seen the Tennant before after seeing a photo of the two of you together.
8- You get taken to the cleaners, all because you decided to rush the eviction process.
Mods, is it not against the rules to promote illegal activities? Serious question as some members here don't seem to understand that is exactly what they're suggesting..