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Thinking of going to Indonesia in a couple of months for a holiday. Current plan is some trek to see Orangutans, Mt. Bromo and Bali. All in all, around 12 days perhaps.

I'm responsible for researching Mt. Bromo stuff. Thought i'd see if anyone on here has been before, and if so, recommendations for places to stay/see/do etc.?

Also, any other places we should be considering and are worth a visit? Any opinions on the Jogjakarta ruins would be appreciated. Seems like they might be similar to Angkor Wat? Haven't been there, but went to My Son ruins in Vietnam a couple of years ago, which are similar to Angkor Wat so not sure if Jogjakarta would be new or the same stuff.
 
Thinking of going to Indonesia in a couple of months for a holiday. Current plan is some trek to see Orangutans, Mt. Bromo and Bali. All in all, around 12 days perhaps.

I'm responsible for researching Mt. Bromo stuff. Thought i'd see if anyone on here has been before, and if so, recommendations for places to stay/see/do etc.?

Also, any other places we should be considering and are worth a visit? Any opinions on the Jogjakarta ruins would be appreciated. Seems like they might be similar to Angkor Wat? Haven't been there, but went to My Son ruins in Vietnam a couple of years ago, which are similar to Angkor Wat so not sure if Jogjakarta would be new or the same stuff.

Spent 4 weeks there , MT Bromo is great pay for the sand cars though we walked and its miles!

If you go to Bali avoid Kuta its a dump! Gilli Air however is out of this world!

http://www.gili-paradise.com/gilis-information/about-gili-islands/gili-air/

No cars or anything just beautiful scenery and oceans.

Jogjakarta ruins weren't my bag but if you like that sort of thing they are impressive.:)
 
Spent 4 weeks there , MT Bromo is great pay for the sand cars though we walked and its miles!

If you go to Bali avoid Kuta its a dump! Gilli Air however is out of this world!

http://www.gili-paradise.com/gilis-information/about-gili-islands/gili-air/

No cars or anything just beautiful scenery and oceans.

Jogjakarta ruins weren't my bag but if you like that sort of thing they are impressive.:)

Cool, that's helpful, thank you! Will check out Gilli Air.

Any recommendations for where to stay near Mt. Bromo?
 
Ah, rather jealous. For my job I research Borneo, Sumatra, Bali and a few other areas relating to conservation of wildlife and the environment. It's made me really want to go to Bali, Nusa Penida and North Sumatra. They look stunning. Where do you plan on seeing Orang-utans also?
 
Thinking of going to Indonesia in a couple of months for a holiday. Current plan is some trek to see Orangutans, Mt. Bromo and Bali. All in all, around 12 days perhaps.

I'm responsible for researching Mt. Bromo stuff. Thought i'd see if anyone on here has been before, and if so, recommendations for places to stay/see/do etc.?

Also, any other places we should be considering and are worth a visit? Any opinions on the Jogjakarta ruins would be appreciated. Seems like they might be similar to Angkor Wat? Haven't been there, but went to My Son ruins in Vietnam a couple of years ago, which are similar to Angkor Wat so not sure if Jogjakarta would be new or the same stuff.

I've been to Mt Bromo twice, once when it was erupting (well, ash pouring out of it) and second when it had stopped and I could walk up to the creator mouth and take a look down (it was still burping a bit of ash at the time). To say the least, it was awesome. You do need to be up at something like 4am to make the walk up to the best viewing point though. As someone else said, if you do go to the creator too, get a jeep (or horse) as it is some walk just to the start of the climb (which is hard going as it's all ash - or at least it was when I went).

First trip, that ash cloud was raining down on the viliage I was staying in:

Six months later, peering into the volcano from the above pic:


Both times I just booked a local 'tour' drive from Yogya to Bromo, then onto the port for the crossing over to Bali. It included an overnight stay at some place in a small village closest to Bromo so you could get up for sunrise view of Bromo. I couldn't tell you the name of the places I stayed, I was just backpacking around so it would have been cheap. I wish I could remember the first place though, as it had a lovely little inner courtyard area (covered in ash) and the rooms were pretty good. But it was bloody cold. Sorry... guess that wasn't much help :D

The two places I visited from Yogya were Prambanan and Borobudur (also went for a walk on Mt Merapi, lava still flowing). Borobudur is a single massive structure you walk around and climb to the top. Unlike places like Angkor Wat and My Son, it's all been tided up and re-built where it was crumbling, but all very well done - you can't really tell. I enjoyed it, got some good views etc, but it can be bloody hot while you're on the temple.

Prambanan is a little more like Angkor Wat in terms of sprawling temples (on a comparably tiny scale), but again, they've all been much more tidied up and again in much better condition than My Son etc - again I would recommend a visit, but then I like that sort of thing :)

As for Oran-utans, I went to the northern tip of Sumatra. Stayed in a tiny village called Bukit Lewang right on a river which was on the edge of the jungle. I basically flew into Medan (a craphole capital of Sumatra) and got a public bus straight out and up to Bukit Lewang (2-3 hours I think). Then just wandered up the road until I found a guest house with space. There are some really nice places down there and exceptionally cheap (this was in 2011) and friendly. Think I paid equivalent of 1 pound a night. Then in the morning you can just cross the bridge at the north of the village into the jungle for the morning Oran-utan feeding. You can also do longer 2/3 day jungle hikes which I would have loved to do but my visa was expiring :( You can just book these with your accommodation when you arrive, but guessing with your time restrictions you might want to do something in advance.

Bali is very nice, but as someone said, avoid Kuta at all costs, it's aimed at Australian 18-25 year olds, if you get my drift. They've also ruined what was a very nice beach view by building a massive 12 foot wall between it and the sea front road (so all the restaurants that did have beach and sea views now have wall views) after the Tsunami. Ubud in the centre is often seen as cultural Bali - although it's getting majorly touristy now - it still a nice place to relax for a bit, and I did an awesome guided mountain bike ride around the surrounding areas (all down hill as they drive you to the top of the mountain first).

Lovina on the north of the island is a good place to stay too, far less touristy (and volcanic black beaches) with some awesome diving to be had.

If you're open to not actually staying the whole time in Bali then there are also a few smaller islands off the east coast which you might consider. I stayed on Nusa Lembongan. There is nothing to do there really, except eat drink and relax. Or you might consider getting off Bali and over to Lombok and a small town on the west coast called Senggigi. I didn't get to Gilli Air, but heard very good things. I'd recommend looking into all of these to see what kind of stay you're looking for.

Sorry, I think this post turned out to be a bit more of a reminice for me than help for you!! I have no idea how you're going to manage just 12 days, I spent 2 months backpacking around Indonesia and I was knackered ;) Either way, you'll love it, the food is fantastic and the people a genuinely friendly and kind.
 
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Thanks everyone! Particularly you MadFruit!

Just a few followups :)

Arsonist - No idea. Travelling with cousin who is looking into the Orangutan side of it. Any recommendations based on the wildlife research (sounds interesting btw! Do you work for a NGO?)

Hikari - bit of both, but as far as beaches go, bit more watersports rather than just lying around (though want a bit of that too ^_^). The first two will be trekking/walking around, so something more...sedentary for Bali :)

MadFruit - wow! Pics look amazing. Do you really need to get there for sunrise to enjoy it? I heard that it isn't worth it anymore because it gets super touristy so I was thinking either go really early and get a spot, or forget the sunrise and go at a more sensible time, and just enjoy the park and the trek. How long is the walk to the start and then to the crater you reckon? I was leaning more towards walking rather than jeep/horse so could spend time just wandering around. Would you advise against it? Are the treks doable in a day or do you need to stay on the mountain?

Haha - that does sound cool :) We're looking for something on the cheaper side too. Either a nice hostel or cheap hotel. Probably no more than 20-25/night. More so since we won't be there most of the time. Is the village itself (if you remember the name) worth exploring? Or just get there in time for bed and head to the park? How many days do you reckon Mt Bromo and the park should be?

Mr Merapi sounds cool! Is that near Bromo or near Jogjakarta? (presume that's what Yogya refers to...?)

Hmm. The ruins sound kind of interesting, and I do like that stuff, though cousin is a bit less into it. Don't suppose you know if they are doable as day trips?

The jungle hikes sound fun and I think more what we had in mind. I'll pass this all on to my cousin who is researching that part of it (how nice you remember so many details on that side including names :p). Yea, I think we might want to book (or at least research to see what to book) bit more in advance. How did you find the experience? Have to say, i'm not massively keen on seeing the orangutan's part, but more the general hike and seeing other animals. Up for trying anything though!


That's a shame about the wall. I was in Bali maybe 10 years ago with parents and thought it was great. Was very much just staying in a resort at the time though. I did bungee jumping back then, and keen on doing it again. Cousin wants to do some scuba diving, so that too. Lazy ass that I am, am more excited about Bali than the other stuff :p Though the jungle hike does sound interesting!

Am open to not being in Bali - just after something which allows us to chill out, relax, do some water sports and the above etc. Any places in particular that you recall good for them?

No worries at all! Very very helpful and apologies for the insane amount of questions above :) Hopefully you'll get a chance to answer a few of them. Sounds like you had an awesome time there which is very promising :D

Thanks everyone for the tips! Welcome any other views as well!

P.S. - If anyone has any good restaurant recommendations, feel free to mention ;p
 
Do you really need to get there for sunrise to enjoy it? I heard that it isn't worth it anymore because it gets super touristy so I was thinking either go really early and get a spot, or forget the sunrise and go at a more sensible time, and just enjoy the park and the trek.
Well, it seemed to me everything in the world is "best seen at sunrise", but rarely did I see anything magical happen ;) I would say getting there early is probably good though, perhaps less about sunrise, more about the morning light. There are a lot of people there, but you can usually get a spot and they disappear quickly after the sunrise, so linger to enjoy.
How long is the walk to the start and then to the crater you reckon? I was leaning more towards walking rather than jeep/horse so could spend time just wandering around. Would you advise against it? Are the treks doable in a day or do you need to stay on the mountain?
I would recommend staying in the village (Cemoro Lawang I think after a quick google) - it's long drive from anywhere else you'd probably want to stay. What most people do is get their tour 4x4 thing to drive them up to the viewing spot for sunrise, and then get the same 4x4 to drive them to the base of the volcano. I think the 4x4s are generally run by the hostels. In that top picture, there is a structure you can make out below the volcano? That is a temple, to give you an idea of scale. The whole sand plain under where you see the ash cloud is where you'd be walking. It's just not worth it in my opinion. I didn't walk it, so it's hard to estimate, but I had a couple of friends skip the viewing point for sunrise and walk to the volcano instead at 4am, in pitch black. There is no road to follow, just the occasional post to make sure you're on the right track. They regretted it - they barely beat the 4x4's. Might be quicker in daylight though ;) Once you're there, you then need to climb the volcano. Again, I can only going from experience (where it had been raining ash for a few months), but this is akin to climbing a small mountain made from sand... a hard climb. But well worth it.

Haha - that does sound cool :) We're looking for something on the cheaper side too. Either a nice hostel or cheap hotel. Probably no more than 20-25/night. More so since we won't be there most of the time. Is the village itself (if you remember the name) worth exploring? Or just get there in time for bed and head to the park? How many days do you reckon Mt Bromo and the park should be?
I didn't explore the village at all, both times I was on a tight schedule to get to the ferry port for Bali. But from what I saw, there isn't masses to see there. You arrive late (again, just from personal experience), eat, go to bed get up for the view/hike, and then leave. This is generally what you get from any tour leaving from Yogya.

Mr Merapi sounds cool! Is that near Bromo or near Jogjakarta? (presume that's what Yogya refers to...?)
Yeah, Yogya=Yogyakarta=Jogjakarta=Jogja :D. Mt Merapi is a little drive out of Yogya, on the way to Borobodur I think. It was interesting at the time as it had recently just flowed straight through a town taking out some houses and was still flowing. Not sure about the current state. One of my trips I had a private taxi (turned out to be cheaper for five of us to chip in) and he took us there as an extra. Might not be worth it as a dedicated trip, not sure. If you do go, look out for the large lava bombie bolder that landed in the middle of a road, which now they just use as a roundabout :D

Hmm. The ruins sound kind of interesting, and I do like that stuff, though cousin is a bit less into it. Don't suppose you know if they are doable as day trips?
You can get out to both the temples on public bus from Yogya, and they are both easily day trips. If memory recalls you could probably do them both in the same day if you left early (best at sunrise again, obviously ;).

The jungle hikes sound fun and I think more what we had in mind. I'll pass this all on to my cousin who is researching that part of it (how nice you remember so many details on that side including names :p). Yea, I think we might want to book (or at least research to see what to book) bit more in advance. How did you find the experience? Have to say, i'm not massively keen on seeing the orangutan's part, but more the general hike and seeing other animals. Up for trying anything though!
Ha! Yeah, sorry, my memory is a bit crappy. I think I only remember the name of that place because of some biscuits... and Bu(s)kit... I dunno, it was funny at the time ;) The orang-utans are awesome though. On the morning feeding, it's very tightly controlled and you only get to watch for 10 minutes or so (and you're not guaranteed to see them, they just put some food out on some platforms in the trees), but they're incredible creatures. They play to the cameras, they know what's going on and jostle to get the attention. We were very lucky and just as we were being ushered away, one came up very close:



Well worth it for me, along with the chill time in the village. I would have loved to the do the hike, if you're there for that more, then you'll enjoy it, but I have no doubt the Orangs will really put the polish on it.
 
Cheers for all of that! Really helpful!! You'll be happy to hear, just one (ok, two) more question (for now ;)) - how long did you spend in that village for Mt Bromo? It's sounding like it was just a day? Is that right? How's the park to explore around apart from the mountain?

You mentioned getting the ferry to Bali. Is that the best way there? Or does flying/train make more sense? How long does it take?
 
Cheers for all of that! Really helpful!! You'll be happy to hear, just one (ok, two) more question (for now ;)) - how long did you spend in that village for Mt Bromo? It's sounding like it was just a day? Is that right? How's the park to explore around apart from the mountain?

You mentioned getting the ferry to Bali. Is that the best way there? Or does flying/train make more sense? How long does it take?
I basically got the mini-bus from Yogya in the morning, which arrived late (in dark) at Mt Bromo - but if I remember correctly this was due to some problems with the van (both times) and we had to swap to another. So in the morning, I did the view point and the climb, then got back in the minibus and went to the ferry port. By the time I arrived in Bali, it was again late. It was a bit awkward because then I had to arrange with a local minibus taxi to get a ride to our accommodation, but they'll hang around for as long as it takes to get a full bus, this might be a few hours at that time of night.

Honestly, it didn't bother me, and it's probably the cheapest way of doing it. But you might find tours from Yogya will return back to Yogya and then you can fly from there to Denpasar. Or you might find tours that will take you to your accommodation in Bali. There is another volcano trip (Ijen Crater) they usually chuck in too, but I didn't do that.

I guess you'd rather try and find something before you go, rather than wing it, but alas, I have no experience of that, sorry :(

Really didn't see any thing else of the national park, I'd spent a lot of time in other parks around Indonesia, Bromo really was my focus :(
 
I did, thanks! Was great, though a bit too active for my liking. Will post up some pics later as well.

Ended up doing the 3day/2night trek in the Bukit Lawang national park, and spending the day we arrived just relaxing in the town. Was a lot more intense than I expected tbh. I thought it would be a lot flatter than it turned out to be. More scrambling and trying to hold on to things than I expected. Saw 17 orangutans though :) Some come up really close! Fed one or two of them, though ran away from a couple of the others, lol.

Probably spent a bit longer in Cemaro Lawang than was needed. Arrived there in early afternoon on Day 1 (which was an adventure in itself, but didn't have to wait more than 10 minutes thankfully for the Probollingo bus to fill up - some other guys had been waiting for 3 hours!), and spent the rest of it just wandering around, making plans for the next day. Woke up a bit late next day, and then had a good wander around the park and climbed Bromo as well. Was really surprised by how many people were taking taxis/horses etc. from Cemaro Lawang, since it was so close by. Was interesting to see, but the smell and smoke made it seem a bit underwhelming. Next day managed to walk to the viewpoints. There was this one spot, just above the first viewpoint, which was super quiet. Only a few other people, and no schoolgirls jumping and yelling everywhere...(we were just above the first viewpoint, so could hear/see them, but thankfully not too much!). I think we got lucky when we were there, but it was absolutely beautiful, with the sun hitting the mountains and the clouds completely covering everything else underneath you. Did the second viewpoint after that, which was a more straightforward walk than to the first, but as you said as well I think, you don't see all that much new, just same thing from higher up.

Then went on to Gilli Air. This was a more relaxed part. Sat around, did nothing much :) Some Scuba Diving on a couple of the days, which was good. Weather was amazing and the beers weren't too expensive ^_^

All in all, great holiday :) Could go on and on, but i'm aware i've already written a bit! And that's when trying to keep it really short, lol. Thanks again for all your tips! Super helpful in deciding a plan
 
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