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Ryan-3 said:
The last one I followed wasn't doing that speed at all. :p
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A reflection of the inaccuracy of your speedo I'd say, it would have been limited - by law - somewhere between 52 - 56MPH, the exception to this would be going down a steep hill where the truck will exceed it's limited speed,if it does for too long though it's tachograph will log this as an incidence of overspeeding.
 
If your driving a Renault Premium you get a "Pre-Warning" at 45 seconds. You then have 13 seconds to get it down to 55 mph (and hold for two seconds) to reset the timer before letting her "skateboard" again !

I wonder how many "chanced it" by going past a speed camera at 50 mph on a single carriageway today ?
 
indyskyz said:
This is great news, should speed up the commute slightly.

What they really need to do is announce nationally! that NSL single carriageway roads are 60 for cars not 50 like most seem to believe.
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My favourite is on the A30 at Tedburn, it's a dual carriageway and there is a speed camera on the East bound side...a 70mph limit. So yesterday someone overtook us at over 70, spotted the camera, slammed on the brakes down to 50mph in front of us. Once past the camera they then went back up to over 70mph. :rolleyes:

This happens almost every time I go past that speed camera...if people can't work out it's meant to be a 70mph limit then I'd rather they didn't bother changing up the limits.
 
Do lorry drivers actually know this has been rolled out? Reason being I work next to quite a few lorry depots and they are still doing 40mph on a NSL at 2am in the morning!
 
Ban lorrys from lane 2 at peak times. Also allow under taking as the amount of people who just sit in the middle lane was getting stupid.

When I drove in the US the trucks did 70mph and everyone undertook. It just flowed so much nicer than over here.
 
matthab said:
Ban lorrys from lane 2 at peak times. Also allow under taking as the amount of people who just sit in the middle lane was getting stupid.

When I drove in the US the trucks did 70mph and everyone undertook. It just flowed so much nicer than over here.
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I thought undertaking was very much allowed, if you're in a lane and maintaining speed?
 
The_Abyss said:
I thought undertaking was very much allowed, if you're in a lane and maintaining speed?
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In traffic, not at 70 mph on half empty roads, essentially to stop people being daft and refusing to undertake when two queues of traffic are crawling next to each other.

"stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left"
 
Outcast said:
Ok... Tongue in cheek reply I gave my brother on FB when he said that...

Well the typical truckers answer to that is

A: you never protested against the truck speed limiter legislation when it was proposed so now you reap what you have sewn

B: Your journey is NOT more important than ours. ie: We DO NOT come into your work environment and stuff your job up so... GET OUT of our work environment !!

C: You serfs are not supposed to be leaving the shire so what are you doing commuting miles on our freemans highways and clogging them up and then complaining WE are holding you up ?

I could go on....


:p ;)
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Ban all vans and lorries between 7-9am and 4-6pm on ALL roads.

Don't you realise that people have stuff to do :mad:

:p ;)
 
Kenai said:
In traffic, not at 70 mph on half empty roads, essentially to stop people being daft and refusing to undertake when two queues of traffic are crawling next to each other.

"stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left"
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The gov.uk web site actually says
"In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake."

Sometimes the 'traffic' in the left hand lane is me.
 
My post was a quote from gov.uk as well, there are several rules in the highway code that mention it. Yours is taken from the 'Motorway > Overtaking' section, mine was taken from 'Using the Road > Overtaking'

What they all have in common is a mention of 'slowly moving' or 'congested conditions' etc. identifying that this is not intended to allow you to fly past middle lane morons at 80mph on the left, as this doesn't qualify as congested or slowly moving :p

The only exception to that which I am aware of is the rule that says you can pass a car that is stopped indicating to turn right on the left too :p
 
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Why are we having yet another undertaking argument?

It is perfectly legal to pass on the left.

It's not a discussion.

What ISNT allowed is to steam up behind someone in the outside lane, swing into the middle lane, blast past them and swing back into the outside lane.
That is undertaking, and that isn't allowed.
There is nothing that prevents you from maintaining your speed in your lane and passing slower moving traffic on your right.
 
George Hincapie said:
Does anyone really drive at 70 MPH on the motorway? I set CC at 80 and will overtake where necessary.
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I do, approx. 15,000 miles a year of it too, and you know what? It makes almost no difference whatsoever to the time I arrive at places versus driving at 80mph. It does, however, make a huge difference to how much fuel I use.
 
The offence of "overtaking on the inside" was dropped many moons ago, although the police could still possibly press a charge of dangerous driving should the situation warrant it.

What IS an offence now is driving in lane 2/3/4 when NOT overtaking, and is punishable by £100 fine + 3 points....should there ever be any police actually there on the motorway to prosecute for the offence!
 
It's unlikely to make a drastic difference to the daily commute sadly. Over the many thousands I do each year, lorries rarely stick to 40mph on SC NSL A Roads.

We should however, increase the normal car speed limit. Inline with France would be nice 130kmh or 110kmh weather depending.
 
Havana_UK said:
I do, approx. 15,000 miles a year of it too, and you know what? It makes almost no difference whatsoever to the time I arrive at places versus driving at 80mph. It does, however, make a huge difference to how much fuel I use.
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A pretty valid point really. My commute to work is 57 miles each way. 37 miles of this is NSL dual carriageway. It usually takes me about 1 hour 10 minutes if traffic is light, regardless of what speed I do on the A3.

For the 37 mile A3 stretch, at 70mph, it would take just under 32 minutes. At 80mph it would take just under 28 minutes. A 4 minute saving in total, a large chunk of which will probably be lost due to lorries overtaking each other and people hogging lanes they shouldn't be in. I'm in complete agreement - it honestly makes no real noticeable difference to journey times, it's just that 70 'feels' slow after doing 80 for so long.

I made a trip from Portsmouth to Durham recently and actually stuck pretty much strictly to 70mph the entire way and I did the whole journey non-stop. It took me 5 hours 7 minutes which is pretty damn good going. I bet if I was ploughing along at 80mph it wouldn't have made much difference due to the fact I would've been speeding up and slowing down with traffic/lane hoggers/lorry overtakes all the time. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I just find it more chilled out to just stay at 70ish these days. It was also mostly because of that journey (700 mile round trip) that I managed to hit 809 miles out of a single tank of fuel so it does make a difference.
 
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