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AMD to Skip 20 nm, Jump Straight to 14 nm with "Arctic Islands" GPU Family

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AMD to Skip 20 nm, Jump Straight to 14 nm with "Arctic Islands" GPU Family

AMD's next-generation GPU family, which it plans to launch some time in 2016, codenamed "Arctic Islands," will see the company skip the 20 nanometer silicon fab process from 28 nm, and jump straight to 14 nm FinFET. Whether the company will stick with TSMC, which is seeing crippling hurdles to implement its 20 nm node for GPU vendors; or hire a new fab, remains to be seen. Intel and Samsung are currently the only fabs with 14 nm nodes that have attained production capacity. Intel is manufacturing its Core "Broadwell" CPUs, while Samsung is manufacturing its Exynos 7 (refresh) SoCs. Intel's joint-venture with Micron Technology, IMFlash, is manufacturing NAND flash chips on 14 nm.

Named after islands in the Arctic circle, and a possible hint at the low TDP of the chips, benefiting from 14 nm, "Arctic Islands" will be led by "Greenland," a large GPU that will implement the company's most advanced stream processor design, and implement HBM2 memory, which offers 57% higher memory bandwidth at just 48% the power consumption of GDDR5. Korean memory manufacturer SK Hynix is ready with its HBM2 chip designs.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/211973/a...-to-14-nm-with-arctic-islands-gpu-family.html

note to mods-NOT 390/380 news
 
This is the stuff I am hoping to wait for.

May even wait for 2nd gen 14nm, but don't want to jump on another 28nm gen, even though the TitanX is nice, and the 390X will likely be good.

Actually want the 3 x 290X 8GB to give me my money's worth in GPU for once - though that depends on AMD support in the next few months. If they don't get on the ball, I will move soon, and to Nvidia.

But I am going off topic a bit.

Node shrink just can't come soon enough. Can't ever remember a shrink taking this long.
 
This is a rumour that might actually be true, except for the date of course, as I cannot see either AMD nor NVidia being able to bring us 14nm cards before 2017. Maybe very late 2016 so I suppose it could actually work out to be accurate.
 

The above shows just how many cards we used to get years ago in a short space of time, I know die shrinks were closer together back then but you would get noticeable performance jumps just 6 months apart.

The above should start from about 32 minutes in.
 
VincentHanna said:
I'm glad we don't get new GPU's every 6 months now to be honest.

Still spending more and more on GPU's though...
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If the performance jumps were as noticeable as they were back then why not?

The way it is at the moment is just stagnated, nVidia have no incentive to move on quickly when their competitor takes forever to respond.

It's been an extremely boring past few years in the GPU sector.
 
Ayahuasca said:
If the performance jumps were as noticeable as they were back then why not?

The way it is at the moment is just stagnated, nVidia have no incentive to move on quickly when their competitor takes forever to respond.

It's been an extremely boring past few years in the GPU sector.
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+1

GPU space is becoming boring indeed, with performance jumps we would usually see now being branded under extremely expensive products. Due to lack of competition.

That video above does a great job of explaining the current situation. With Nvidia having 75% market share they can't push to hard against AMD lest they face accusations of monopoly etc. Hence why they simply do not need to price their products any cheaper, or could literally put AMD out of business (In the dedicated GPU Space).

When we finally see die shrinks and new technology + software.. Things like HBM, DX12, Windows 10 etc we should see a decent jump in performance and a needed shake up in the GPU space. It literally can't come soon enough. Cut through the stagnation..

AMD will be ok but really need to get a move on bringing some new exciting products, to shake things up.
 
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Ayahuasca said:

The above shows just how many cards we used to get years ago in a short space of time, I know die shrinks were closer together back then but you would get noticeable performance jumps just 6 months apart.

The above should start from about 32 minutes in.
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That just displays a white blank square on my PC at work. Quite funny.

Its what you get when GPU advancement is a lot further along than the software available. eg DX11 GPU's out for ages when no games used DX11
 
Martini1991 said:
Nope? Probably was rumours though.

Pretty sure this 3 distinct generations on the same fab is also the first of its kind?
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True, normally they recycle the architecture several times over (E.g. 8800 GTS, 9800 GTX, GT250) this time around they have gone the other way and recycled the manufacturing process many times over.
 
That graph is quite detailed, if you look through the past, AMD would occupy around 30% / 40% market share, but would always have periodic new release, this gen is the first time AMD have not followed up with anything new for such a long period, and as a result have lost a lot of market share, down to 25% Nvidia now don't need to do anything, and prices can remain high..

I do believe once AMD get some new products out they can re coup their lost market share. Sooner rather than later though, as it will be an uphill struggle..

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What is this? Facts figures and graphs don't belong in the GPU section. Come back when you have a massively biased opinion with no evidence to back it up.
 
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