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AMD could be preparing high-performance A10-7870K Black Edition and A8-7670K APUs.

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AMD could be preparing high-performance A10-7870K APU

Advanced Micro Devices may be working on a new accelerated processing unit that belongs to the current-generation of its hybrid microprocessors. The AMD A10-7870K chip has not been announced yet, but it could hit the market in the coming weeks or even days.
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http://www.kitguru.net/components/a...-be-preparing-high-performance-a10-7870k-apu/

AMD readies A10-7870K and A8-7670K APUs

New AMD A-Series microprocessor for socket FM2+ was spotted by ComputerBase.de on a price comparison site. The new APU has a model number A10-7870K, and it was listed at a preorder price of 175 Euro. The specs provided were generic for Kaveri A10-Series products, and they mention 4 CPU cores, 28nm manufacturing process and 4 MB L3 cache. No CPU or GPU clocks were given.
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http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/2015042301_AMD_readies_A10-7870K_and_A8-7670K_APUs.html
 
Literally no enthusiasm here.

Memory bandwidth bottleneck on the gpu exists, and it's 4 cpu cores from AMD.

High performance does not belong in that spec.
 
Martini1991 said:
Literally no enthusiasm here.

Memory bandwidth bottleneck on the gpu exists, and it's 4 cpu cores from AMD.

High performance does not belong in that spec.
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Lol, I think we have to endure these plus 8XXX series APU's before we get to the really good stuff next year. HBM will take care of that memory bottleneck, plus die shrink and new architecture. The new APU's are potentially looking very tasty.

These current ones are ideal for an cheap all in one budget PC, but looking forward to next years new APU's to be a real consideration for me to build for myself.
 
Martini1991 said:
Sorry. But how does HBM take care of the memory bandwidth.

The problem is not the type of memory. It's the lack of existence of It.
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Wut?

Lack of existence of memory, Currently APU's use DDR3 system memory, the new architecture next year will use HBM. So yeah that bottleneck (Caused by slow DDR3 memory) will be removed.

cheesyboy said:
High Bandwidth Memory (HBM). Does what it says on the tin :D
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Lol :D

I think he's just trying to troll. I don't know why though lol.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Wut?

Lack of existence of memory, Currently APU's use DDR3 system memory, the new architecture next year will use HBM. So yeah that bottleneck (Caused by slow DDR3 memory) will be removed.
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So, the RAM you buy that slots in your PC will be HBM?
And you just described my "lack of existence of memory" the APU has no dedicated memory, hence the bandwidth problem. Look at iris pro, Intel doesn't have the problem as they've got a solution.
 
The big HPC Zen chip which was outlined on Fudzilla a week or two ago had HBM on-package. The theory is that the consumer chips will have the same treatment.

E: I suspect some wires have been crossed in this thread :p
 
Martini1991 said:
So, the RAM you buy that slots in your PC will be HBM?
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Martini1991 said:
So, the RAM you buy that slots in your PC will be HBM?
And you just described my "lack of existence of memory" the APU has no dedicated memory, hence the bandwidth problem. Look at iris pro, Intel doesn't have the problem as they've got a solution.
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It's a new architecture, DDR4 for system memory and HBM for the graphics part of the APU.

AMD are always helpful when it comes to upcoming releases, why not drop them a line I'm sure they would answer this :p
 
cheesyboy said:
The big HPC Zen chip which was outlined on Fudzilla a week or two ago had HBM on-package. The theory is that the consumer chips will have the same treatment.
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If it's got memory on die, then it's problem solved. But if you bolted any current gpu memory, the problem is resolved.

Again. The problem is not the memory, rather the lack of existence.
 
Martini1991 said:
So, the RAM you buy that slots in your PC will be HBM?
And you just described my "lack of existence of memory" the APU has no dedicated memory, hence the bandwidth problem. Look at iris pro, Intel doesn't have the problem as they've got a solution.
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In this context HBM specifically relates to on-die GPU memory, much the same as the Intel Iris Pro has on-die memory. HBM specifically is a technology though, not just high bandwidth memory in any context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Bandwidth_Memory


Martini1991 said:
If it's got memory on die, then it's problem solved. But if you bolted any current gpu memory, the problem is resolved.

Again. The problem is not the memory, rather the lack of existence.
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Zen based architecture features HBM as referenced above - i.e. Specifically On-Die memory.
 
Martini1991 said:
That's a bit short sighted.......
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in what way?

Yes their chips with 128MB eDRAM are faster than Intel's other chips, but when they are not noticably faster than AMDs chips that don't have any on-package RAM, it's a bit of a hollow victory - and just proves how bad the rest of the intel onboard graphics still are.
 
Because you're missing the point.
Performance is a sum of parts.

If kaveri wasn't bandwidth limited, the gpu performance would be up there with a 7750, it's no where near now.

The iris pro gpu isn't anywhere near that standard.
 
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