body shaming gone too far? (***warning*** Daily Fail Story ***warning***)

[dowie]

People with lives, jobs, kids, more important things to do, don't have the time (I certainly don't have the time to play football twice a week!), money or help (she'll have a personal trainer) cannot simply 'put some effort into it' to look like that. She's probably been skinny all her life - it'll be in her genes.

LOL that old chestnut.... 'genes'

Also I work in the City of London and area where people work far longer hours than most of the population and yet plenty seem to manage to exercise and eat healthily. In fact obesity is more common amongst lower income groups, a larger portion of whom only work part time or don't work at all and so have ample time to exercise should they have the motivation to do so.

 

[Freefaller]

The supplement industry is great at persuading people that supplements are a way of getting you to your goals. They forget they are just supplements - they supplement your diet/lifestyle. If you have a good diet and a good regime and your are pushing yourself at 80% the supps will help you eek out a bit more of your performance. You don't need their supplements to look better, or good - but they can help add low calorie/0 calorie nutrients to your lifestyle if you aren't able to do it - taking a supplements won't help that per se, but it may save you eating more calories than you need.

 

[Caseh]

As a Chubster that hates Katie Hopkins, it pains me to agree with her, but on this I have no choice. People complaining about that poster need to sort themselves out, whether mentally or physically. I actually think something should be done, that poster should be in more places. Like on the end of every road and full size covering the side of buses. Seriously, put that poster everywhere.

 

[antijoke]

Fatties rather make excuses and shame fit people than sort themselves out.

That about sums it up.

 

[Pixel]

There has been a growing movement in recent years, especially in America, of fat and lazy "feminists" blaming their bad position in life on everyone else except themselves.

Its blame culture, fat acceptance, and new wave militant feminism all rolled into one, and it's hilarious.

 

[Adrianr]

It's nowhere near that simple. It's how someone who has a job looking they way she does, looks. To use a photograph like that to advertise a product implying, 'You can look like this if you buy our product' is total BS. It's unobtainable by the majority of people.

People with lives, jobs, kids, more important things to do, don't have the time (I certainly don't have the time to play football twice a week!), money or help (she'll have a personal trainer) cannot simply 'put some effort into it' to look like that. She's probably been skinny all her life - it'll be in her genes.

I've got no problem with the advert. I'll look at it, think she's attractive, totally ignore the product and carry on with my life, forgetting it in seconds. But to say people that don't look like that are simply lazy b'tards (as many people in this thread are doing) is crazy off the mark.

Not at all. Good diet is the majority of the battle, and we all still find plenty of time to eat. One of the great misconceptions of overweight people at the gym. "I go to the gym, I still don't lose weight!!" - Said whilst eating a cookie and slurping a coke. I'm not having for a second that people can't take the 5 minutes to learn about better nutrition, and rather than snacking on crap all day just exercise a little self control and have a glass of water instead.

 

[norm]

I think nowadays advertising firms prefer to cause controversy and rely on the ensuing backlash from the public/press to promote their product.

The people that defaced the billboard did so by climbing across the live rail of the underground? Shows how mental people are. "I will risk my life because your advert has offended my delicate nature."

 

[dowie]

The supplement industry is great at persuading people that supplements are a way of getting you to your goals. They forget they are just supplements - they supplement your diet/lifestyle. If you have a good diet and a good regime and your are pushing yourself at 80% the supps will help you eek out a bit more of your performance. You don't need their supplements to look better, or good - but they can help add low calorie/0 calorie nutrients to your lifestyle if you aren't able to do it - taking a supplements won't help that per se, but it may save you eating more calories than you need.

yup, there is a lot of pseudo science out there and a lot of stuff that we might well have enough of already in our diet to the point where the supplements end up becoming expensive urine

I can see that creatine can be useful for people as trying to get certain quantities of it naturally is a lot harder, protein shakes can be helpful too though it is something we can easily get lots of naturally and we can only utilise so much per day... if people are already into their chicken, tuna, egg whites, cottage cheese, milk etc... then adding in a protein shake might well be completely unnecessary.

multi vitamins are generally a bit BS if you've already got a healthy, balanced diet.... and pills to aid slimming are a bit dubious

 

[dowie]

I think nowadays advertising firms prefer to cause controversy and rely on the ensuing backlash from the public/press to promote their product.

The people that defaced the billboard did so by climbing across the live rail of the underground? Shows how mental people are. "I will risk my life because your advert has offended my delicate nature."

yup, amusingly all the people protesting the advert, causing the news stories are just giving the company more free advertising

 

[nicktay2605]

I'm sorry BadMojo but that's complete rubbish. People claim they don't have time but that's because they choose to spend their spare time doing something else. I know a single mum of two who manages to fit in an hour of exercise per day despite having two kids to look after and a full-time job. I also remember reading about one of the top guys at Apple who gets up at something like 4 or 5am each morning so that he can get in an hour of exercise before work.

Like I said, people who claim they don't have time probably choose to use their (admittedly limited) spare time doing something else, like watching TV for an hour, relaxing with a beer, whatever it may be. I don't have a problem with people doing that, but if they are choosing not to exercise and aren't happy with the way they look, they have kind of forfeited their right to complain. It's like a smoker complaining about getting lung cancer.

Besides, we all know that the majority of the battle is diet related. Most people who are overweight are that way because of all the crap they eat and drink, not because of a lack of exercise. My gran was thin her entire life because she ate and drank sensibly. She hated sport but she never put any weight on.

 

[norm]

The change.org petition states: 'Protein World is directly targeting individuals, aiming to make them feel physically inferior to the unrealistic body image of the bronzed model, in order to sell their product.

Isn't that how the entire cosmetic industry works? Women apply make-up to conform to some unrealistic concept of beauty which is constantly pervaded throughout media/society.

Besides which the picture of the girl is not unrealistic at all, that's what a toned athletic body of a woman that age looks like.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Isn't that how the entire cosmetic industry works? Women apply make-up to conform to some unrealistic concept of beauty which is constantly pervaded throughout media/society.

What is unrealistic about the concept of beauty promoted by the media/society? Its all pretty achievable if you've the right genetics. If not, well its better to aspire to something beautiful than just to let yourself go. Just don't base your entire self-worth on it.

 

[malachi]

Anyone who says they don't have time to exercise is talking rubbish. Take away the TV, mobile phone, computer for a week and you be surprised how much spare time you have!

I work from 8am till 4pm, I am up at 5.30am, 5 days a week to go to my gym. WITHOUT FAIL. At least then, if I need to stay late after work, go out or chill at home, my 1hr gym session is done and I don't need to worry about it. Too many make excuses and prioritize the wrong things in life.

May 2014 and 2013, I spent travelling around parts of Asian and Europe. Unless you are surround by slim people in another country then you will never understand how many fat people in the UK. Go to places like Prague or Japan and play spot the fatty. You very rarely find a overweight person, then you look at the UK and you have kids doing the Marshmallow/Michelin Man walk with bars of chocolate in their hands. Its shameful and embarrassing.

 

[estebanrey]

Also I work in the City of London and area where people work far longer hours than most of the population and yet plenty seem to manage to exercise and eat healthily. In fact obesity is more common amongst lower income groups, a larger portion of whom only work part time or don't work at all and so have ample time to exercise should they have the motivation to do so.

I see a similar thing at wok with recycling rates. The richer areas of my city which are full of Doctors and Managing Directors working long hours are much better at recycling than the poor area with high unemployment; despite the latter having more time on their hands to dedicate to it.

It's almost as if they're lazier

 

[cheesyboy]

Anyone who says they don't have time to exercise is talking rubbish. Take away the TV, mobile phone, computer for a week and you be surprised how much spare time you have!

I work from 8am till 4pm, I am up at 5.30am, 5 days a week to go to my gym. WITHOUT FAIL. At least then, if I need to stay late after work, go out or chill at home, my 1hr gym session is done and I don't need to worry about it. Too many make excuses and prioritize the wrong things in life.

May 2014 and 2013, I spent travelling around parts of Asian and Europe. Unless you are surround by slim people in another country then you will never understand how many fat people in the UK. Go to places like Prague or Japan and play spot the fatty. You very rarely find a overweight person, then you look at the UK and you have kids doing the Marshmallow/Michelin Man walk with bars of chocolate in their hands. Its shameful and embarrassing.

To be fair, your schedule is not exactly a difficult one to fit in exercise, is it.

I eat reasonably well so I'm no bloater, as it happens, but I certainly don't do as much exercise as I would like or as I used to before parenthood. But I'm up at 6am, dealing with the kids until I leave for work at 8, home at 6.30, dealing with the kids until 8pm, then I eat, tidy up and it's 9pm. On about 3 days a week, I don't have further jobs to do, so I have up to 2 free hours before I go to bed by 11 to get my not-quite-7-hours sleep.

Perhaps I could go to the gym 3 days a week, but it's a tough sacrifice when those 6 hours are the only free time you have all week. And I'm a 15+ minute drive from the nearest gym.

I can easily see why those with less food awareness than I could pile on the pounds.

 

[malachi]

To be fair, your schedule is not exactly a difficult one to fit in exercise, is it.

Exactly, I find time by getting my ass out of bed early. Instead of rolling over and hitting the snooze button.

 

[cheesyboy]

Exactly, I find time by getting my ass out of bed early. Instead of rolling over and hitting the snooze button.

no, it's not hard to "find time" when your responsibilities only extend to 8 hours work.

I'm aware that some people would still fail here, but most (or many) have a bit more on their plate.

 

[Things change I've changed]

You don't even need to find time, losing weight starts with controlling what you put in your mouth, that alone well loose you pounds.

 

[norm]

You don't even need to find time, losing weight starts with controlling what you put in your mouth, that alone well loose you pounds.

Never a truer word said. If you have a calorie deficit against your basal metabolic rate you will lose weight.

It's important to have the correct macronutrients as well to have a balanced diet. A lot of people who put on weight would do well to eat more protein which is slower digesting and keeps you feeling full longer instead of reaching for simple carbs.

 

[cheesyboy]

You don't even need to find time, losing weight starts with controlling what you put in your mouth, that alone well loose you pounds.

Well that's a different argument, which I touched upon in my previous post.

My argument was with malachi's assertion that "Anyone who says they don't have time to exercise is talking rubbish" which was, ironically, malachi talking rubbish.