Being fat and ugly doesn't count as being disabled

Gman said:
I want to see the entire blue badge scheme overhauled.

IMO there should be reserved parking allocated for wheelchair uses only not just for anyone who's managed to pick up a blue badge because of a stubbed toe.

My justification for this is this...

Your in a wheelchair and you go shopping, All the disabled spots are taken. Now because you NEED extra room to get the chair out you can't park in a regular spot. So you have to either float round waiting for a space or give it up as a bad job.

If you're not in a wheelchair but have a blue badge and the disabled spots are taken you're still able to use a regular space.
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So what your saying is anyone with a blue badge but not in a wheel chair is perfectly capable of using a normal parking space? That's a massive generalisation of those who have a blue badge and I'll hazard a pretty safe bet you can't back that up with any stats?


Gman said:
Bull, 99.5% of the time they can manage with a regular spot. The only issue is distance.
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99.5%, again I'm guessing you don't have facts figures and stats to go with that statement?

I know of several badge holders who aren't in wheel chairs but would struggle to the point of it being impossible to get out their vehicle in a standard parking bay.
 
fatiain said:
You should see our local Morrisons just after it opens, it's like "Geriatric Day of the Dead".
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I feel terrible. This made me laugh.

I don't know the rules on disabled spaces. But my local Tesco has a lot!
More annoying in the excessive amount of kids spaces.
But saying that.. I'd rather people with kids not park near me and bash doors into mine
 
fibromyalgia She also suffers chronic fatigue syndrome.
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ahhhh gotta love those two conditions the basic "ohhh i'm illl" give me my cheque conditions untestable, unprovable, undiagnosable.

The amount of the chronically unemployed who suffer from these is staggering, still able to go out drinking every Friday night though, it seems chronic fatigue doesn't apply for all night benders.
 
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fatiain said:
You should see our local Morrisons just after it opens, it's like "Geriatric Day of the Dead".
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Shop full of mobility scooters and Zimmer frames holding you up? The mums with their shopping trolleys are worse than then older ones. :p
 
She also has chronic fatigue syndrome which means she suffers muscle stiffness, tingling all over her arms and legs, dizziness and clumsiness.
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seems safe to be behind a wheel then....
 
The amount of ignorance being happily displayed in this thread is disgusting. I truly hope none of you ever have to suffer the very real and very difficult daily fight that someone with severe mobility problems has to. I can tell you that if you do, you'll understand instantly why disabled bays are so important.
 
Gman said:
Bull, 99.5% of the time they can manage with a regular spot. The only issue is distance.
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Crap.

I know of an elderly chap who comes into my place of work regularly. He must be around 70 years of age and walks with 2 sticks who would get on far better with a wheelchair due to his condition. He refuses to get a chair because he feels its the last straw if he gave up "walking" (and I use the term walking loosely here.... It takes him 10 mins to walk the 60 yds from carpark.

All the while still caring for his grown up Down Syndrome son without asking for any help from anyone.

Why? Because he doesn't want to be a burden on anyone and has none of this self-entitlement that a lot of people seem to have these days.

When you see him you just go "**** me, it puts my issues into perspective"

You really think he shouldn't have a blue badge and use the disabled bays?
 
Tefal said:
ahhhh gotta love those two conditions the basic "ohhh i'm illl" give me my cheque conditions untestable, unprovable, undiagnosable.

The amount of the chronically unemployed who suffer from these is staggering, still able to go out drinking every Friday night though, it seems chronic fatigue doesn't apply for all night benders.
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Try working full time, taking 4 buses a day, having kids to raise and a house to look after AND have chronic fatigue.

Sick of the moocher culture in Britain today.
 
Edrof said:
The amount of ignorance being happily displayed in this thread is disgusting. I truly hope none of you ever have to suffer the very real and very difficult daily fight that someone with severe mobility problems has to. I can tell you that if you do, you'll understand instantly why disabled bays are so important.
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Anyone who parks in a child & parent or disabled bay, anywhere... should get a £50 on the spot fine.

If you can get fined for being in a private car park too long, then this rule should apply.

It will soon put a stop to it and end the argument entirely. It's a silly issue.
 
dowie said:
tis down to 'honour' I guess, generally as you can see from the thread, the expectation would be that people would have blue badges anyway - though as with the case for this woman - if you've got a legit reason to use it then there shouldn't be anything stopping you

yes technically someone could be a bit of a tool and just park in one regardless and give it the whole 'I know my rights'... then again the supermarket are entitled to request you move your vehicle
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They are also allowed to charge you for parking incorrectly provided they have signed it and managed it in the appropriate way.
 
The note appears factually correct, however it's a harsh thing to leave on her car.

She's an idiot for parking in a bay without a badge though, considering she has applied for a badge she should know better.
 
Thekwango said:
So what your saying is anyone with a blue badge but not in a wheel chair is perfectly capable of using a normal parking space? That's a massive generalisation of those who have a blue badge and I'll hazard a pretty safe bet you can't back that up with any stats?




99.5%, again I'm guessing you don't have facts figures and stats to go with that statement?

I know of several badge holders who aren't in wheel chairs but would struggle to the point of it being impossible to get out their vehicle in a standard parking bay.
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Richie said:
Crap.

I know of an elderly chap who comes into my place of work regularly. He must be around 70 years of age and walks with 2 sticks who would get on far better with a wheelchair due to his condition. He refuses to get a chair because he feels its the last straw if he gave up "walking" (and I use the term walking loosely here.... It takes him 10 mins to walk the 60 yds from carpark.

All the while still caring for his grown up Down Syndrome son without asking for any help from anyone.

Why? Because he doesn't want to be a burden on anyone and has none of this self-entitlement that a lot of people seem to have these days.

When you see him you just go "**** me, it puts my issues into perspective"

You really think he shouldn't have a blue badge and use the disabled bays?
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No I'm saying there should be x % of disabled bays dedicated purely to wheelchair users.

But I bet you any money if there was a situation where all the bays were taken and a non wheelchair users needed to park they would use a regular bay. Yes it might be harder but they can still use it.

I'm in a unique position regarding this topic and a very large percentage of blue badge holders can cope with a regular bay if it came down to it.

All I'm saying is that when it comes down to it the majority could use a regular bay as a last resort where as a wheelchair user would have to turn round a go home.
 
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StriderX said:
But its shopping, hardly a leisurely trip, plus it costs extra for fuel...so i dont see how its worth it really.
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That's not really the point though is it. Some people who are housebound look forward to their weekly, fortnightly shop, just to get out the house and change their surroundings. It may be shopping to you, but it's something else to them!
 
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