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I already have so expect it to happen again.
Theresa May confirms with Dimbleby that a Conservative majority will vote in the Snoopers' Charter
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I already have so expect it to happen again.
Is that a thing?
Alternatively the conversation they are wasting resources on could be some one discussing a game of CS
I'd imagine the convo goes something like
we raped those guys last night, good job planting the bomb terrorists always in!
or
Cod player "just got a sniper rifle with scope"
how many man hours do they want to waste on key words
Only thing they will stop is amateurs he people these laws are meant to help catch are already organised and not stupid.
I bet most the intelligence gathered on terrorist groups and organised crime is not from monitoring communication.
gives the government a nice excuse to monitor everyone but don't worry as long as your doing nothing wrong.
government will slowly strip away all your freedom
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No, the legislation hasn't kept up with the tech you are correct, which is why GCHQ and the NSA have been allowed to work round existing laws. What is currently legal for internet traffic would be illegal in post and telephone situations.
What is being suggested is the equivalent of the government registering every piece of physical mail, who sent it and who it was being sent to, as well as allowing the police to open any post they want without a warrant, or allowing the police to tap any phone without a warrant.
The laws governing the internet are out of date and need updating, but not in the way the "snoopers charter" would update them.
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Are people really this brain dead and short sighted? Truly baffles me that you don't see an issue with such legislation. I truly hope that you, your children, your grandchildren (and so on) are always living in such a free and righteous society, where you will never have any morally justifiable reason to hide your data. For if you accept this legislation now, when the day comes when you'll have legitimate reason to hide your data, they will simply turn to you and say, "if you were happy to accept it back then, then surely, you'll will be happy to accept it now?"
It's not recent. It's an update to the prevention of terrorism acts that were enacted in Northern Ireland during the Troubles. They had to update them with the increased threat from Islamic terrorism.
I can remember many stories on the news here were people had been charged with "having information that could be useful to terrorists" or something along those lines. That could include anything from bomb making instructions, to having police, soldiers or prison staff car number plates written down. In fact, I know one prison officer personally who had their license plate along with a few others on a list, found in a Republican prisoners cell.
Edit: Including some links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Act_2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Act_2000#Section_58_.E2.80.93_Collection_of_information
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58
The 2000 act replaced the 1989 act (which was predominately for Northern Ireland). Section 58 1b of the 2000 act states "he possesses a document or record containing information of that kind." Information likely to be of use to terrorists. Bomb making instructions.
Section 57 is much more clear on specifics. Basically, if you've got bomb making instructions, you better have a damn good reason why.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/57
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Quite possibly. This guy got let off after being found with actual fully viable devices.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32599623
lol had it on an Amiga disk when I was a teenager
Never tried any of it although the tennis ball bomb seemed tempting
lol had it on an Amiga disk when I was a teenager
Never tried any of it although the tennis ball bomb seemed tempting
I remember it doing the rounds at college.
or arrested under terrorism charges
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7030096.stm
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Number of people surprised by Libertarian OP with previous history of paranoia around privacy and 'big gumment' out to get him posting about, well, big gumment out to get him = zero.
The question is OP what do you have to hide?
What an utterly stupid thing to say.
Just because you have nothing to hide, it does not mean they should be allowed access to your private life.
What an utterly stupid thing to say.
Just because you have nothing to hide, it does not mean they should be allowed access to your private life.
Not stupid at all. He's saying he's not fussed. So he's also saying he doesn't mind if they have access to his private life. You should respect peoples opinions instead of calling them stupid just because their opinions are different than yours.
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What an utterly stupid thing to say.
Just because you have nothing to hide, it does not mean they should be allowed access to your private life.
Indeed. I wonder how happy the 'nothing to hide' brigade would be to have a routine, full rectal cavity search at the airport, just in case you happen to be smuggling drugs. You might have nothing to hide, but you are still going to get anally raped
Indeed. I wonder how happy the 'nothing to hide' brigade would be to have a routine, full rectal cavity search at the airport, just in case you happen to be smuggling drugs. You might have nothing to hide, but you are still going to get anally raped
Is that something you wonder about a lot Bunny? Having your rectum searched by a burly customs man?
Don't get your knickers in a twist. See below.
What an utterly stupid thing to say.
Just because you have nothing to hide, it does not mean they should be allowed access to your private life.
Stupid? Not stupid at all.
Point still stands, I couldn't give a rats *** if someone has access to my phone, or email records.
Indeed. I wonder how happy the 'nothing to hide' brigade would be to have a routine, full rectal cavity search at the airport, just in case you happen to be smuggling drugs. You might have nothing to hide, but you are still going to get anally raped
Someone shoving their finger up my rear is a little different than reading my phone records. But yeah, nice comparison.
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It's not If you're not doing anything wrong you shouldn't worry.
It is quite the opposite If you're not doing anything wrong they shouldn't need to look.
The majority are treated like suspects for the minority that cause problems.
We don't require a paper trail of responsibility to be human beings surely.
We thought Labour were a nanny state 10 years ago with their CCTV. Good grief.
What is next?
Be giving councilors or government officials copies of keys to our homes next so they check we're not doing anything in them they disapprove of?
Mandatory doctors appointments to hand over DNA to go on file?
It is quite the opposite If you're not doing anything wrong they shouldn't need to look.
The majority are treated like suspects for the minority that cause problems.
We don't require a paper trail of responsibility to be human beings surely.
We thought Labour were a nanny state 10 years ago with their CCTV. Good grief.
What is next?
Be giving councilors or government officials copies of keys to our homes next so they check we're not doing anything in them they disapprove of?
Mandatory doctors appointments to hand over DNA to go on file?
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