The labour Leader thread...

The candidates for Labour leader are very poor indeed, it'll be a good few elections until they will win only because people will want a change, Cameron was dreadful in his election campaign, he must think he's untouchable which he is i'm afraid.
 
Caged said:
I don't agree. He seemed quite happy to get a bit obsessive over a cost of living crisis which evidently a large amount of the country didn't sympathise with. Posts on here make better rebuttals to Tory claims of economic competence than anything I heard coming out of PMQs.
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And yet he prevented intervention in Syria, stood up to Murdoch over bskyb and played a large part in the Leveson inquiry over phone hacking. Nobody else has achieved nearly as much as him in opposition for decades.
 
Sorry, I was focusing more on what was mentioned in the election campaigning. The overwhelming arguments I heard were "we aren't the Tories".

Whether that was down to Miliband or the people advising him I have no idea, but he was the face of it all.
 
Ah yes, military intervention would have been much better at a time when the government were claiming to be poor. Western nations have traditionally done so well when they interfere with the middle east after all.
 
I'd put money on Chuka Umunna, in my opinion he's been primed in the media (ie on tv etc) to be leader for the last year if not longer.

Whether he's the right person is another matter.
 
Moses said:
Agreed on Chuka Umunna in particular. He seems to epitomise the newest generation of smarmy, weasely politician. Tristram was also a joke whenever chatting rubbish about education - I'm not saying there wasn't anything to be said, but the topics they picked were stupid and being disingenuous with regards to things like 'unqualified teachers' was off-putting.
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Mr. Umunna makes Keith Vaz look honest and squeaky clean.
 
lsg1r said:
I'd put money on Chuka Umunna, in my opinion he's been primed in the media (ie on tv etc) to be leader for the last year if not longer.

Whether he's the right person is another matter.
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I fear you're right - loads of tedious references to "Britain's Obama" :rolleyes:
 
I know labour are serious about getting a decent leader but I can't see them winning Scotland back for a long time and that will mean they will not be in power. Whoever leads labour will probably fail at the next election. We will likely have SNP ruling Scotland for the next 10+ years. Labour will never be in power without Scotland.
 
delta0 said:
I know labour are serious about getting a decent leader but I can't see them winning Scotland back for a long time and that will mean they will not be in power. Whoever leads labour will probably fail at the next election. We will likely have SNP ruling Scotland for the next 10+ years. Labour will never be in power without Scotland.
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We still need opposition
 
I think it will be Yvette or Chukka they have the organisation and influence behind them.

Cooper would be ok, but Chukka is thoroughly modern smary empty suit politician. I couldn't bear to see or hear him in the media for 5 years that would be too spiteful even for the Labour Party.
 
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OldCoals said:
Labour should not pick...

A. Champagne Socialist.
B. Anyone associated with Ed Balls and Labour economic strategy
C. Anyone with ties to Blair and the Iraq War.
D. Union Stooge
E. Privileged Toff

So that rules out Chuka Umunna, Yvette Cooper, David Miliband, Tom Watson and Tristram Hunt.
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Amen to that. Saw Chuka Umunna on Andrew Marr show this morning and it's like he was chanellling ed milliband. I've seen him TV loads of times though and I'm sure he wasn't quite so robot-like - perhaps they think that makes them *more* electable?
 
Chuka Umunna is good, from his appearances on TV. Dan Jarvis' write-up sounds good, but I've never seen him in action or heard of him before.
 
Dan Jarvis has ruled himself out.

TBH that's a problem. Take that list. Remove the Blairite and Brownites because they'd only serve as a reminder of where Labour failed. Remove the posh ones. Remove any remaining candidates that appear soulless/career politician in nature. Congratulations. You now have an empty list.
 
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