Ur kid is 2 fat

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/obesity/pages/introduction.aspx

"There are many ways in which a person's health in relation to their weight can be classified, but the most widely used method is body mass index (BMI)."

Wide spread usage doesn't lend it any more validity.

It doesn't take in to account body composition, so it is useless.

As I said, body fat percentage determines whether you're obese or not, not your BMI.
 
Wide spread usage doesn't lend it any more validity.

It doesn't take in to account body composition, so it is useless.

As I said, body fat percentage determines whether you're obese or not, not your BMI.

BMI defines whether you're obese

that there are issues with BMI is irrelevant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity

"Obesity is a medical condition in which excess body fat has accumulated to the extent that it may have a negative effect on health, leading to reduced life expectancy and/or increased health problems.[1][2] In Western countries, people are considered obese when their body mass index (BMI),[3] a measurement obtained by dividing a person's weight by the square of the person's height, exceeds 30 kg/m2, with the range 25-30 kg/m2 defined as overweight. "

http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/defining.html

"For adults, overweight and obesity ranges are determined by using weight and height to calculate a number called the "body mass index" (BMI). BMI is used because, for most people, it correlates with their amount of body fat."


The kid in question isn't an elite athlete or bodybuilder btw..
 
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BMI defines whether you're obese

Nope

that there are issues with BMI is irrelevant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity

Irrelevant in as much as the issues it has contradicts its usefulness?

"Obesity is a medical condition in which excess body fat has accumulated to the extent that it may have a negative effect on health, leading to reduced life expectancy and/or increased health problems.[1][2] In Western countries, people are considered obese when their body mass index (BMI),[3] a measurement obtained by dividing a person's weight by the square of the person's height, exceeds 30 kg/m2, with the range 25-30 kg/m2 defined as overweight. "

http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/defining.html

"For adults, overweight and obesity ranges are determined by using weight and height to calculate a number called the "body mass index" (BMI). BMI is used because, for most people, it correlates with their amount of body fat."

So the BMI calculation can tell you a person's body fat percentage?
 
Irrelevant in as much as the issues it has contradicts its usefulness?

whether it is useful or not is irrelevant to the point, I'm aware there are some issues with it (I even alluded to these issues in the OP, most OCUK posters are elite athletes/bodybuilders as we know so high BMI scores don't matter to them)

but the terms 'overweight', 'obese' 'severely obese' are defined in terms of BMI
 
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processed food

I don't think this is a typical modern western diet or was your point that the child in the OP suffered from an abundance of processed food?

e: didn't realise that we were getting into the spoffle / BMI argument again. It's like someone already made a predictive post about Groundhog Day.
 
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whether it is useful or not is irrelevant

the terms 'overweight', 'obese' 'morbidly obese' are defined in terms of BMI

They are all dependent on bodyfat levels. The fact that people can be classed as obese with a healthy level of body fat is enough to demonstrate that BMI has very little validity.
 
actually he is overweight, stating obese in the OP was an (unintentional) mistake on my part


http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx

107cm
20.35kg
5 years old

That tool seems rather strange.
Frighteningly odd.
Take the same child height and weight, and give them 4 years of age difference, age 4 or 8, and it gives one a well done sticker, and calls the other a fatty, even thought the 8 year old is so under height they must have a genetic disease, or have systemic illness or suffered major trauma.

I suppose like any tool, it is only useful if you apply it directly.
His actual BMI isn't high at all, the tool converts this figure to centiles for his age, and decides upon the basis of age if he is in or outside a range.
 
They are all dependent on bodyfat levels.

they're terms defined by BMI

The fact that people can be classed as obese with a healthy level of body fat is enough to demonstrate that BMI has very little validity.

not necessarily, it can still be useful

but regardless I'm aware there are issues with BMI, that isn't the point though

and this is all rather irrelevant given that we're not talking about a bodybuilder/elite athlete
 
I got the same letter for our four year old girl.

It got safely filed in the round receptacle with the swing lid.
 
Mr Hurry, 47, from Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, said he didn't know whether laugh or feel furious after receiving the letter which he described as 'political correctness gone mad.'
I know it's a DM catchphrase, but what's politically correct about a letter telling you your son's a total bloater?
 
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