Lost garage key, landlady doesnt have spare

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Hi all,

I live in a shared household, 4 bedrooms, we all have our own front door key, and room key, and there is a garage key pinned to the notice board, the landlady has 3 properties in the same street.

The landlady is a silent one, iv never met her, or spoken to her on the phone, only had the email comms (to which her emails are no longer working) I struggled to get a number for her, but I do now around 5 months ago, but again you only get the odd reply if you try and text her, basically most of the time she is uncontactable.

She has someone in the area who looks after the basic running around, including looking after viewings, moving some furniture about, and acts as a middle person, she has keys to the rooms etc but thats as far as it goes, anything else like payments, anything else has to go to this silent landlady.


There has been some issues whereby in my bedroom I have balcony style doors, which is always unlocked, because the key for it she doesnt have so iv never been able to lock it)

The other day (friday) I lost the garage key, with no other way in, now in most cases landladies or owners should have spares, to which I would pay a missing key cut charge or something, however the first lady doesnt have a key, and the real owner has not responded to texts over the last few days.

Am I within my right to try and claim the cost of a locksmith coming out, getting me in to the garage and changing the lock? shouldnt all property owners have a spare key, if not, why should this be my fault that they have not cut a spare, especially in a shared household environment?


Im in no way saying its not my fault for loosing a key, but **** happens, if it was my own property I would have a spare of every key, even still I cant get a reply from the women to see if she has. I need to get in the garage within the next few days.
 
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I can't see her coughing up for you losing the key. In fact I'd expect most landlords to charge you for changing the locks if you lost the key whether or not they had a spare. It'll be covered in your tenancy agreement.

Yes it's daft she doesn't have a spare.
 
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You lost it, you pay for it.

Some insurance covers loss of keys, check if yours does or not.
 
There has been some issues whereby in my bedroom I have balcony style doors, which is always unlocked, because the key for it she doesnt have so iv never been able to lock it)

just to point out if you have any insurance this likely invalidates it. and the same goes for hers.

maybe inform her of that.
 
What's the garage like? If its an up and over door there's a fair chance you can get in without a key and replace the lock yourself - they aren't the most secure of things...

With regards to your room door i'd be kicking up a serious stink about that. You'd probably be within your rights to get a locksmith to change the locks on that & charge it to the landlord. Maybe ask CAB about this.
 
What's the garage like? If its an up and over door there's a fair chance you can get in without a key and replace the lock yourself - they aren't the most secure of things...

With regards to your room door i'd be kicking up a serious stink about that. You'd probably be within your rights to get a locksmith to change the locks on that & charge it to the landlord. Maybe ask CAB about this.


Up and over, Cardale lock, no numbers on the lock iv already tried phoning manufacturer for a spare key but not possible with no numbers.

I did try and pick it yesterday and gave up, other option would be to drill it, my drill is in the garage so would need to borrow one, and hope to god I dont mess it up

Would rather do that and just replace it myself. I think the drilling option could be an idea, but the one lady that looks after the house told me not to do anything until I hear from the real owner, but she is no where to be heard of.


There is not much of a gap at the top of the door.
 
Bash a screwdriver into the lock and turn it with some plumbers grips.

Or a chainsaw combination wrench - then you can put a pole in the end for extra leverage if needed.
 
You lost the garage key, that is your problem.

The balcony doors are her problem, but since they already open it is pretty cheap & easy to replace the barrel locks on most doors.
 
Bash a screwdriver into the lock and turn it with some plumbers grips.

Or a chainsaw combination wrench - then you can put a pole in the end for extra leverage if needed.


Could probably do that, aslong as I can get in thats the main thing, I have both of those items in my room to use.

I just didnt want to be in a situation where I try that, and completly mess something up that iv messed up the lock, and it cant be opened, at all.
 
To open it you'll probably just need a metal coat hanger.... If it only has one catch at the top (older door for example) then stick the coat hanger end up there and you should be able to flick open the catch with a bit of jimmying. I've done that a couple of times to our door, they really aren't secure.

That way you can at least get in if you need to, not going to help with the lost key though.

Edit: this way doesn't damage the door like the suggestions above, so if the owner does have a spare key you can still use it.
 
To open it you'll probably just need a metal coat hanger.... If it only has one catch at the top (older door for example) then stick the coat hanger end up there and you should be able to flick open the catch with a bit of jimmying. I've done that a couple of times to our door, they really aren't secure.

That way you can at least get in if you need to, not going to help with the lost key though.

Edit: this way doesn't damage the door like the suggestions above, so if the owner does have a spare key you can still use it.


Again will try that, but there is hardly any gap at the top, so not sure if it will get through
 
To open it you'll probably just need a metal coat hanger.... If it only has one catch at the top (older door for example) then stick the coat hanger end up there and you should be able to flick open the catch with a bit of jimmying. I've done that a couple of times to our door, they really aren't secure.

That way you can at least get in if you need to, not going to help with the lost key though.

That might work if you have the wire system. There's no way of doing that with my garage as it's just a pair of long metal bars extending out from the handle
 
What's the garage like? If its an up and over door there's a fair chance you can get in without a key and replace the lock yourself - they aren't the most secure of things...

yeah the old locks we had on ours i could open with a screwdriver. no fancy picking put thin screwdriver and and wiggle while turning lol.
 
yeah the old locks we had on ours i could open with a screwdriver. no fancy picking put thin screwdriver and and wiggle while turning lol.

Well if that's the case, then don't do my suggestion: try a lighter touch first and you might get in without killing it.
 
with regards to your balcony it'll cost you about £10 and take 10 minutes to switch the barrel out for a new one that you'll have the key for
 
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