What do you think of people who let their kids run wild in public?

In general I would say that both my kids are well behaved, the first is an angel, probably kicked off in public two or three times in her entire life. The second is good for the most part, but she is firmly in her terrible twos (which she started at about 12 months old) and is on occasion the closest thing to pure evil you will find outside of a comic book. While 99% of the time she is fine, when she decides to kick off she gos for it. If you were to catch me at the wrong moment in a supermarket you might think I'm letting her run wild when in reality I'm at my wits-end trying to think of any way I can to get her to behave like a human being.

I can shout at her, I can take her toys away, I can reason with her, I can attempt to bribe her, I can even let her do the very thing I was trying to stop her doing when it all kicked off and she still won't be happy. At times I think the only thing that will satisfy her is if I perform some kind of demonic sacrifice at her altar of evil. My ex-wife does not believe in smacking children for the most part (when they're older, can understand what they have done wrong and exactly why they're getting a smack things are different) which means I need to follow suit. So if you ever see me in Tesco with a satanic child screaming and shouting and spewing hate - I'm not letting her get away with it, I've just tried everything apart from picking her up and shaking her really really hard.
 
Rids said:
In general I would say that both my kids are well behaved, the first is an angel, probably kicked off in public two or three times in her entire life. The second is good for the most part, but she is firmly in her terrible twos (which she started at about 12 months old) and is on occasion the closest thing to pure evil you will find outside of a comic book. While 99% of the time she is fine, when she decides to kick off she gos for it. If you were to catch me at the wrong moment in a supermarket you might think I'm letting her run wild when in reality I'm at my wits-end trying to think of any way I can to get her to behave like a human being.

I can shout at her, I can take her toys away, I can reason with her, I can attempt to bribe her, I can even let her do the very thing I was trying to stop her doing when it all kicked off and she still won't be happy. At times I think the only thing that will satisfy her is if I perform some kind of demonic sacrifice at her altar of evil. My ex-wife does not believe in smacking children for the most part (when they're older, can understand what they have done wrong and exactly why they're getting a smack things are different) which means I need to follow suit. So if you ever see me in Tesco with a satanic child screaming and shouting and spewing hate - I'm not letting her get away with it, I've just tried everything apart from picking her up and shaking her really really hard.
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Parenting in a nut shell, folks! It's like you just described my 2 year old daughter as well... Except you could add that after the massive tantrum and throwing herself all over the shop, she'll then drop a load down her trousers, so you have to suspend her mid-air through the shop desperately trying to find the customer toilets, all the while hoping the other child will tag along and not get lost in the chaos of it all.

Ah, parenting...
 
kissenger said:
This did occur to me, but it didn't seem like he did, unless it was one of those ******** disabilities like ADHD.
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My eldest lad (6yrs) has several of these ******** disabilities, and from the outside it can look like he's being a bit of a sod. I suppose he is really but there are days where he is pretty difficult to get through to.

I've seen the look from enough people who obviously won't know the reasons, so when I see someone else with a child kicking off or similar I tend to look on with sympathy.

Some parents will let their kids run wild but I try and give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
well after reading all of that i feel a hell of a lot better, knowing that people hate when my childs screaming his head off in the supermarket and i have zero sympathy for people who genuinelly can't stand the screaming.. my kids well behaved practically all of the time its on rare occassion he has a tantrum and thats only when hes shattered, and determined to fight sleep and not drop off, so for the people complaining about it just walk away you have that luxury to avoid us people with the screaming children, but I can completely understand children running around getting in peoples ways and annoying the life out of them and sadly its these parents that give all parents in supermarkets a bad name when they let there children go running off to the opposite end of the supermarket.
 
Rids said:
So if you ever see me in Tesco with a satanic child screaming and shouting and spewing hate - I'm not letting her get away with it, I've just tried everything apart from picking her up and shaking her really really hard.
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Sometimes that's what you have to do, they'll soon learn that screaming won't get them their way. If you give in to them every time they throw a tantrum they'll just do it more.

Tk7 said:
My eldest lad (6yrs) has several of these ******** disabilities, and from the outside it can look like he's being a bit of a sod. I suppose he is really but there are days where he is pretty difficult to get through to.
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My lad had a difficult early childhood, the kind that caused behaviour that would break most parents. I guess from the outside me and Mrs LordSplodge may have looked like terrible parents but we got him through those times and he is now a well rounded adult. He was also, thankfully, a well behaved teenager.

I know that screaming or misbehaving kids can be annoying but a little patience goes a long way.
 
bloodiedathame said:
Do you honestly think that these parents want their kids to be behaving like that? They're kids, they aren't programmed to sit still for hours on end, make no noise and have perfect table manners. What a crappy world it would be if kids were that sterile.
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On the contrary it would be a great world if parents made the effort to get their kids to behave in public.
 
Took my 3-year-old daughter to Tesco today, no shouting, no running around, no bad behaviour.

Also saw a lot of other people with young children, all behaving themselves.

It is possible.
 
danielanthony said:
Took my 3-year-old daughter to Tesco today, no shouting, no running around, no bad behaviour.

Also saw a lot of other people with young children, all behaving themselves.

It is possible.
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Yep it's possible, it's just not always predictable. Kids have a way of choosing their moments to kick off and sometimes there's naff all you can do about it as a parent other than ride it out.
 
I have no problem with the parents who at least try to keep their kids in line. It's just a minor annoyance if the child is being loud after all.

It's another story, however, when you get those parents who stand around chatting, completely oblivious to their children as they run around the shop full pelt, weaving in and out of people who are pushing around heavy steel trollies. That's a potentially dangerous situation.

Accidents do happen in shops, they aren't a crèche, and it's up to the parents to minimise that risk.
 
I have a lot less time for people with attitudes like the OP or atpbx than I do for a child behaving badly in public.

Britain has a horrible unpleasant attitude towards children and it makes our whole society a lot less pleasant to be in. Travel to a country like Denmark with a much healthier attitude towards children in public and you soon realise how much better it makes things - even for a childless guy like me.
 
Pixel said:
I have no problem with the parents who at least try to keep their kids in line. It's just a minor annoyance if the child is being loud after all.

It's another story, however, when you get those parents who stand around chatting, completely oblivious to their children as they run around the shop full pelt, weaving in and out of people who are pushing around heavy steel trollies. That's a potentially dangerous situation.

Accidents do happen in shops, they aren't a crèche, and it's up to the parents to minimise that risk.
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This is spot on, if the parents at least are seen to be trying to stop/minimise the behaviour or seem apologetic in some way then I'm sure most people would have no issues whatsoever.
Its the same mob who park their car selfishly etc, dunno the solution, eugenics?
 
Pixel said:
It's another story, however, when you get those parents who stand around chatting, completely oblivious to their children as they run around the shop full pelt, weaving in and out of people who are pushing around heavy steel trollies. That's a potentially dangerous situation.

Accidents do happen in shops, they aren't a crèche, and it's up to the parents to minimise that risk.
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He was swinging on a rail. Would you stop your child swinging on a rail? How about climbing a tree? The reality is that any kind of physical activity carries a risk. This child, and his family, got very unlucky. That doesn't make them bad parent.

It's also completely unconnected to what you talk about in the paragraph before. He wasn't hit by a trolley, there's nothing to suggest he was running around. He was playing on a rail, mere feet from his parents and he fell. It's frankly pretty repellent of you to use his tragic case as an example in your argument.
 
There was one in the supermarket the other week stamping its feet and screaming full volume at the end of the isle while its mother casually ignored it and carried on shopping down the other end with no concern at all. What's worse is in restaurants when they run all over the place screaming.
 
BS. Children behave how they have been taught to behave by their parents, knowingly or unknowingly. Very few of them exhibit odd behaviour that is independent of the environment they were bought up in.

Also, inb4 "you clearly don't have kids ... Blah blah blah". Take responsibility for your own failures, scumbags.
 
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