Ireland votes on gay marriage - why should I care?

In 1993 I and 5 colleagues were in Ireland on a training course, we went for a pub crawl in Dublin, one pub, The White Horse I think it was called was a gay pub, we didn't know this, two lads in their 20s stared kissing a few feet from us, obviously trying to promote a reaction.

3 of my colleagues walked out leaving their pints, I told then to stop being childish!

Had a great night and the waitress gave us free drinks all night for not being #''#'#'# holes.
 
Gay or straight marriage is way overrated! No am not married but been with my partner for 21 years.

I wish people would understand that you do not need to marry a person to love a person! :confused:

But hey ho let them spend the money on a irrelevant title! :rolleyes:
 
I wish people would understand that you do not need to marry a person to love a person! :confused:

I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but I think acceptance from society that your love is just as valuable and special as someone in a heterosexual relationship is a powerful thing.
 
You should care because it's a great example of how a true democratic law should be passed.
It's also a fantastic sign that we are becoming a far more civilized, loving, empathetic and considerate society, the result would have sadly been very different only a decade or two ago.
It's positive progress of our species and should absolutely be celebrated with gusto :-)
 
I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but I think acceptance from society that your love is just as valuable and special as someone in a heterosexual relationship is a powerful thing.

Should they not be accepted for who they are anyway, regardless of sexuality or status? :confused:

People are just people to me, don't care what you do or get up to that's your thing and your life. Who the hell am I or anybody else for that matter to interfere in a persons personal life. ;)
 
Should they not be accepted for who they are anyway, regardless of sexuality or status? :confused:

People are just people to me, don't care what you do or get up to that's your thing and your life. Who the hell am I or anybody else for that matter to interfere in a persons personal life. ;)

And that's great but not everyone is as tolerant and accepting as you are and this legal change helps to show that their views are in the minority.
 
The pope commented on gay relationships already, his words were 'Who am I to judge?'

The most forwarding thinking thing I've heard from anyone of power in the Catholic Church in quite some time.

Much respect to him then.

I'm not gay myself and to be honest, I am still slightly uneasy about seeing public displays of affection from gay people but I agree completely that it should be legalised.
 
See...the issue I have with same sex marriages is that by definition they are not marriages. They're something different. If you have to change the very definition of a word, then it is no longer that word.
I have no issues with same sex couples having the same legal standing...just call it something different. Like a homiage!
I also really hate the term gay marriage. If we're going to call it marriage, bloody leave it at that. It doesn't need gay or same sex in front of it! It's simply a marriage ( homiage).
 
And that's great but not everyone is as tolerant and accepting as you are and this legal change helps to show that their views are in the minority.

This is what people get wrong! It is not tolerance it is understanding thats the key.

Tolerance is to tolerate something you dislike, I do not dislike gay or any other sexuality. I just understand what people are like.

Understanding is the key not tolerance ! ;)
 
This is what people get wrong! It is not tolerance it is understanding thats the key.

Tolerance is to tolerate something you dislike, I do not dislike gay or any other sexuality. I just understand what people are like.

Understanding is the key not tolerance ! ;)

I agree with your point, but I think both are important, albeit the understanding the most important.
 
See...the issue I have with same sex marriages is that by definition they are not marriages. They're something different. If you have to change the very definition of a word, then it is no longer that word.
I have no issues with same sex couples having the same legal standing...just call it something different. Like a homiage!
I also really hate the term gay marriage. If we're going to call it marriage, bloody leave it at that. It doesn't need gay or same sex in front of it! It's simply a marriage ( homiage).

First paragraph : Um.

Second paragraph : Agreed.
 
I agree with your point, but I think both are important, albeit the understanding the most important.

Surely though you can understand something without agreeing with it?
For example you and I no doubt both understand why some people commit crimes. Sometimes the intentions are even noble. Doesn't make it right though.
 
[FnG]magnolia;28078057 said:
First paragraph : Um.

Second paragraph : Agreed.

Think of it like shepherds pie. It's lovely and tasty but has a defined list of ingredients. Swap that lamb for beef and you no longer have shepherds pie. You now have cottage pie. Still delicious but not the same thing.
People seem to get too hung up on equality. You can be equal but still be different. Nothing wrong with that.
In my eyes different makes things more interesting.
 
Not everyone wants to understand though and so sometimes they just need to be tolerant.

I know you work for the fuzz!

Police in Liverpool are very far from tolerant I can assure you, but that's another subject and off topic. ;)

Each to there own I say and if you not doing anyone any harm in anyway then took in don't be shy! ;)
 
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