Just because a government passes a law, doesn't mean society at large sees things the same way.
True. It takes a generational change in the moral zeitgeist. The older bigots need to die off and make way for the younger liberal egalitarian people.
Just because a government passes a law, doesn't mean society at large sees things the same way.
True. It takes a generational change in the moral zeitgeist. The older bigots need to die off and make way for the younger liberal egalitarian people.
African Americans were given legal equality in the '60s in America, but a still subject to a huge amount of racial prejudice in some parts of the country. Homosexual sex was decriminalised in the '60s here but teachers in Scotland were still prevented from discussing homosexuality with pupils until the '90/'00s, preventing pupils on the receiving end of homophobic bullying from seeking support.
Just because a government passes a law, doesn't mean society at large sees things the same way.
What a bigoted world view you have.
I am sure in your mind you believe you've made a very insightful remark, but you haven't. I've addressed this point before. Sterile couples have a limited value to the state, but the number of couples who this would effect is small. When those couples do marry, it isn't making a parody of marriage because they'd still be mimicking the purpose of a marriage.
Pleased to see the religious bigots are losing ground. Atheism is on the rise and more liberal outlooks amongst theists is on the rise too. Well done Ireland.![]()
No. Gay 'marriage' is a prime example of a decadent civilization; one which has lost touch with basic morality. The idea that homosexual relationships are equal to heterosexual relationships is patently absurd.
Can two gay men love one another comparably to a heterosexual couple? Perhaps. But love is not the purpose of marriage. Reproduction is the purpose of marriage. Reproduction is why the state gets involved in marriage.
A marriage bestows rights and obligations on the married parties, and sometimes on relatives as well, being the sole mechanism for the creation of affinal ties (in-laws). These may include, depending on jurisdiction:
Giving a husband/wife or his/her family control over a spouse's sexual services, labor, and property.
Giving a husband/wife responsibility for a spouse's debts.
Giving a husband/wife visitation rights when his/her spouse is incarcerated or hospitalized.
Giving a husband/wife control over his/her spouse's affairs when the spouse is incapacitated.
Establishing the second legal guardian of a parent's child.
Establishing a joint fund of property for the benefit of children.
Establishing a relationship between the families of the spouses.
What's wrong with polygamy or incestual marriages?Once you start diluting the purpose of one of civilizations most important institutions, you are opening the flood-gates to further dilution. It is inevitable. How long is it until we see people pushing for polygamy to be legalised? Or what about incestual marriages?
Yeah all that's wrong with the world is gays getting married, christ on a bike. Money is the reason our civilisation is doomed. The bankers got us into this mess and wars are waged for control of oil in the name of democracy. Get a sense of perspective you bigot.A civilization which has lost touch with the fundamentals of civilized behaviour is doomed. You can already see the structural weakness that runs through the West. Its only going to get worse in the decades that come.
This is the response of equality? That reads like up yours you lot…
In 1946....Personally, I'd do my best to prevent my girlfriend from ever having an abortion, and if she chose to do so I wouldn't support her. But, it should be a choice.
How you interpret words is on you not me. Equality for all under the law is all I'm advocating. If you don't agree with that then 'up yours' might be a correct interpretation.![]()
Please explain. You're the bigot here, you've made that patently obvious with your abhorrent posts. I notice you haven't countered my post above. Hard to counter the truth though so I understand that.
Anyway, as I'm an egalitarian who fights for equality (the opposite of you) please elaborate on why I am the bigot here.
Absolute bigoted nonsense. Nothing decadent about gay people marrying. They are people and as people they should have the same rights as all the other people. Nothing patently absurd about gays being equal to straight people, the only patently absurd thing here is your disgusting prejudice.
There is no 'perhaps' about whether two gay men OR WOMEN can love one another. You're disgusting stance on this is sickening. Reproduction is not the sole purpose of marriage it is simply a function of marriage. Lots of heterosexual couple never have kids. Seriously, didn't you know that ?
Has to be the dumbest crap I've read in months on the internet.
What has the fall of civilisation got to do with gay couples being allowed to marry ? Simple question. Care to answer ?
Why can't two people of the same gender love each other the same as opposite gender?
Also reproduction isn't the purpose of marriage, the religious definition might but I don't want to be married in a church.
What's wrong with polygamy or incestual marriages?
Outside of the legal aspect, nothing.
Yeah all that's wrong with the world is gays getting married, christ on a bike. Money is the reason our civilisation is doomed. The bankers got us into this mess and wars are waged for control of oil in the name of democracy. Get a sense of perspective you bigot.
No. Gay 'marriage' is a prime example of a decadent civilization; one which has lost touch with basic morality. The idea that homosexual relationships are equal to heterosexual relationships is patently absurd.
You can't hide your disgusting horrible views Thompson just by making a big post. We all know you're not a tolerant person who likes to exercise his prejudice.Every time you type you just shame yourself further and distance yourself further from what most would regard as a decent human being.
Paedophile?Same sex, not gender. Gender is some nonsense made up by a paedophile a few decades ago. But I don't know whether they can or cannot, I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
It's really not. Why would you want to promote procreation in a world that is increasingly overpopulated.Yes, it is. The traditional function of marriage is to provide legitimacy to the offspring of a couple. Its modern concept may have been twisted by the liberal elite, but that remains its purpose.
There is nothing wrong with them, how does it affect you if a husband has two or more wives or a wife has two or more husbands?You really need me to explain what is wrong with them, or are you being obtuse?![]()
No you don't have perspective, you are claiming that allowing gays to marry is somehow indicative of the fall of modern society. You are worse than the UKIP idiots that say the flooding is gods wrath on the acceptance of gays.I have perspective, I think that is my curse. But thanks for the ad-hom, bigot.
I feel no shame whatsoever for holding these views. My hands and concious are clean.
You however seem to be a very angry young man who cannot control his emotions.
Paedophile?
It's really not. Why would you want to promote procreation in a world that is increasingly overpopulated.
There is nothing wrong with them, how does it affect you if a husband has two or more wives or a wife has two or more husbands?
I'm well aware of the genetic reason incest is illegal but two consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want within the law.
No you don't have perspective, you are claiming that allowing gays to marry is somehow indicative of the fall of modern society. You are worse than the UKIP idiots that say the flooding is gods wrath on the acceptance of gays.
I know gay couples with children and heterosexual married couples without children.