Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

Minstadave · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:05

Geck0 said:
AMD have played a masterful poker game in the last, what, 8 to 9 months?

* Hype built on the R9 390, people thought it would be revealed at GTC, so nVidia launched the Titan X to spoil it..... (crickets)

* AMD said bugger all but kept hyping the tech behind it, the pressure cooker is now hissing like a cut snake and no firm reveal date, but it *might* be computex or it's more likely to be the 18th or could be the 24th of June.

* nVidia have at this stage raped their high end customers on Titan but lacking a firm date for Fiji have enough info to suggest that Fiji will kick ass & have pulled future release and played their hand early with a cut down Titan that demonstrates that Titan was a BS offering in the first place, they are def worried.

The upshot of this is that whomever is at the helm at AMD is not going to be played like the last batch, and that they have, with an unreleased GPU spec, caused nVidia to get that bent that they released not one but 2 cards to attempt to counter it. The problem is that now nVidia is out of cards until the die shrink & new memory spec and AMD know what their performance is and what the price point is.

Good times if AMD can cause a tidalwave at a profitable price point.

This seems a very optimistic view of AMDs strategy to me :confused:

gradyhawks · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:08

Geck0 said:
AMD have played a masterful poker game in the last, what, 8 to 9 months?

* Hype built on the R9 390, people thought it would be revealed at GTC, so nVidia launched the Titan X to spoil it..... (crickets)

* AMD said bugger all but kept hyping the tech behind it, the pressure cooker is now hissing like a cut snake and no firm reveal date, but it *might* be computex or it's more likely to be the 18th or could be the 24th of June.

* nVidia have at this stage raped their high end customers on Titan but lacking a firm date for Fiji have enough info to suggest that Fiji will kick ass & have pulled future release and played their hand early with a cut down Titan that demonstrates that Titan was a BS offering in the first place, they are def worried.

The upshot of this is that whomever is at the helm at AMD is not going to be played like the last batch, and that they have, with an unreleased GPU spec, caused nVidia to get that bent that they released not one but 2 cards to attempt to counter it. The problem is that now nVidia is out of cards until the die shrink & new memory spec and AMD know what their performance is and what the price point is.

Good times if AMD can cause a tidalwave at a profitable price point.

I kind of get the feeling that this "poker hand" they have been playing hasn't been deliberate.... I hope it is, by god, I would love some monster 390 at a killer price point that brings the scales back in terms of market share, as the big winner in all of that is the consumer. With the 980ti at a more sensible price point that most Nvida offerings, AMD will have to respond with an aggressive price point.

Lets just hope they can pull this off and that it was all calculated and not a total donkey.

TNA · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:09

Minstadave said:
This seems a very optimistic view of AMDs strategy to me

+1

I am not sure masterful and AMD fit in the same sentence when you look at the state of their crossfire drivers. lol

It would have been masterful had they been working very hard on drivers and releasing them often with improvements after the Omega release. That way people would be saying AMD drivers have come a long way etc etc and not be in fear handing over their cash.

gradyhawks said:
I kind of get the feeling that this "poker hand" they have been playing hasn't been deliberate.... I hope it is, by god, I would love some monster 390 at a killer price point that brings the scales back in terms of market share, as the big winner in all of that is the consumer. With the 980ti at a more sensible price point that most Nvida offerings, AMD will have to respond with an aggressive price point.

Lets just hope they can pull this off and that it was all calculated and not a total donkey.

+1 I hope so.

JediFragger · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:16

Minstadave said:
This seems a very optimistic view of AMDs strategy to me

Yup! They seem blind, deaf and dumb this year. Just like their driver dept!!!

Gregster · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:16

If AMD are being put in the realms of poker players, they are still deciding on what to bet and the next hand has already been dealt. They have lost market share galore, lost customers with delayed drivers and still no word on what is what with the Fury/390X/Fiji. With Hardware moving so fast, it doesn't pay to play the waiting game.

Mtom · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:17

AMDMatt said:
That information is under NDA, I'm afraid.

....and is the weather nice? (from Lewis Hamilton)

JediFragger · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:18

How many unanswered cards is it now?? Are we into double figures!???

Mtom · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:20

JediFragger said:
Needs to be 45% faster than a 290X which is do-able. I saw some figures a little while again saying that Fury was upto 60% faster so I think they'll down clock the 390X to be roughly 50% faster, just edging the Ti

If I was a betting man I'd say that this card will be the absolute dogs for the upcoming Battlefront game

60% maybe too optimistic, but with +45% shaders, 1.2 GCN cores instead of 1.1, HBM, better tesselation, and color compression the least is 40%, but i think its higher.

Gregster · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:20

AMDMatt said:
It's coming.

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Thanks for posting that. Any info at all you can share? VRAM? Cores? Release date? Any snippets at all?

TheRealDeal · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:21

The hype around this card is getting daft now. I do hope it's a card to remember but with this kind of hype I think most are going to be let down and AMD will feel the sting at a time they don't need it. If it's as fast as the hype then good as a I love Graphics and at this time Nv are having it to much there own way.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:22

AMD has always been tight lipped about GPU launches AFAIK. Not sure why people are surprised by the secrecy.

Remember the HD4870?? This was after the 8800GTX and 8800GT gave AMD a beating and nobody really expected it. There was even less teasing of specs and general information about it than Fiji IIRC!!

TNA · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:25

Gregster said:
Thanks for posting that. Any info at all you can share? VRAM? Cores? Release date? Any snippets at all?

He is under NDA until; well, when it's ready... lol

Come on AMD, you must leak something today... Gawd! :mad:

gradyhawks · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:25

Now the 980ti has been announced etc, I'm sure we will see some kind of "leak" from AMD.

Marine-RX179 · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:26

Gregster said:
If AMD are being put in the realms of poker players, they are still deciding on what to bet and the next hand has already been dealt. They have lost market share galore, lost customers with delayed drivers and still no word on what is what with the Fury/390X/Fiji. With Hardware moving so fast, it doesn't pay to play the waiting game.

Nvidia does seem to be a much better poker player than AMD.

With the 980Ti announced at only £550, if one didn't know better they would think Nvidia is trying to finish off AMD for good.

Looking at the benchmarks, the 980Ti 6GB comparing to the 295x2 reminds me a lot of the 5870 replacing the 4872x2 back in the days- at the similar price point, and a single GPU card replacing a dual-GPU card.

Even if AMD's HBM new card (or 390x or whatever it is called) was around 10-15% faster than the 980Ti, they will still be stucked in the hole of having to sell a higher cost to produce card at a lower or same price as the 980Ti, simply due to Nvidia will shift more card base on their brand name alone. It's would probably take a miracle to get AMD out of this hole now...

TheRealDeal · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:28

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
AMD has always been tight lipped about GPU launches AFAIK. Not sure why people are surprised by the secrecy.

Remember the HD4870?? This was after the 8800GTX and 8800GT gave AMD a beating and nobody really expected it. There was even less teasing of specs and general information about it than Fiji IIRC!!

Yea there is nothing new about what's happening with this launch apart from how long it's taking. Add in HBM and that's probably why in this case.

Gregster · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:28

TNA said:
He is under NDA until; well, when it's ready... lol

Come on AMD, you must leak something today... Gawd!

I have my bench table out and will build it if the 390X/Fiji/whatjamacallit is decent and priced reasonably so I can run comparisons for both the TX and the new AMD card but would be good to know something

Geck0 · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:32

Gregster said:
If AMD are being put in the realms of poker players, they are still deciding on what to bet and the next hand has already been dealt. They have lost market share galore, lost customers with delayed drivers and still no word on what is what with the Fury/390X/Fiji. With Hardware moving so fast, it doesn't pay to play the waiting game.

Lets just see, I think you'll be singing another tune.

TheRealDeal · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:33

Gregster said:
I have my bench table out and will build it if the 390X/Fiji/whatjamacallit is decent and priced reasonably so I can run comparisons for both the TX and the new AMD card but would be good to know something

Good but as a Nv fanboy you will have to be as fair as can be to have people believing your results. I personally think you will but if others don't you can see why.

Rusty0611 · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:35

I don't think anybody is going to go to the effort to buy a card, bench it and spend time putting the results together just to then doctor them to make their favoured GPU brand look better.

Get real. If people genuinely believe that will happen that says far more about them than it does the person actually doing the results.

TNA · 1 Jun 2015 at 11:35

Gregster said:
I have my bench table out and will build it if the 390X/Fiji/whatjamacallit is decent and priced reasonably so I can run comparisons for both the TX and the new AMD card but would be good to know something

I look forward to that review gregster. Will you be benching any u-b-eye-soft games?

I fancy me a water cooled card, but don't want to fork out too much as I will be definitely getting a 16nm card when they come out next year.

Rusty0611 said:
I don't think anybody is going to go to the effort to buy a card, bench it and spend time putting the results together just to then doctor them to make their favoured GPU brand look better.

Get real. If people genuinely believe that will happen that says far more about them than it does the person actually doing the results.

True, gregster ain't that far gone. LambChop, him maybe. lol