Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

mahius · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:37

QUICK, BUY 290X NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN!

Right now for AMD cards, it looks like the older 290x provides better performance to price than the newer cards. No wonder they were trying to get retailers to empty stock. So buy the 290x while it's still around right now. Even if we're all wrong and the 390/390x is somehow more than just a FILTHY rebrand, you can just return your 290x for a refund and get the new card. Heck, by the time the 290x arrives, we'll know for sure about the 390x. So you'll have it ready in mint condition for either using it and laughing in the faces of those who missed out or to return it with no hassles. Also OCUK have some great deals on 290x right now. I noticed a tasty looking Asus ROG 290x the other day.

Bonjour said:
Well those prices are clearly wrong. Maybe they confused the dollar and euro keys.

I think that's taking into account EU taxes (EU prices sorta account for VAT in the UK, since we don't pay any extra tax on top of the price when buying in Euros) and also the usual UK EU price gouging. Honestly... these prices look realistic, especially when one looks at the dollar pricing. It's almost the same as current 200 series cards, but in £s? Maybe they are a tad out of proportion, but nonetheless, I don't see how AMD can get out of this pitfall right now.

And it's definitely a fail for the 390/390x which are priced much worse than the 290x which was just about appropriately priced for the 4GB version below £250. In terms of R&D costs, I understand why they launched the rebrands, they'd rather spend their money developing the Fury and the next-gen die-shrink cards than waste cash on more 28nm. But for us consumers... AMD are doing badly.

This also now means the GTX 970 is even better at providing bang for buck at it's current price point so no chance of price drops

Oh well. I was going to buy the 390x if it was good, but now it seems I'll have to stick with my original plan of buying a 970 now. I'd order today if the prices were good on the MSI Gaming. And if we're all wrong and the 390x were somehow to be better... then it would arrive just in time for me to return it and buy a 390x instead. But that ain't happening according to these leaks.

Now to wait for OCUK to put the MSI Gaming 970 on that deal for £270 like they've done a lot recently. There's 2 other 970s on the daily deal right now, but those coolers are too loud for my taste. And when both the 970 and my 2 extra case fans arrive I can finally get around to building my new PC. Yay!

ICDP · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:37

AMD and Nvidia have been rebranding for years, I think it's pathetic and I cannot defend it in any way.. It's quite pathetic that they have been doing this for so long. You can bet on the fact that when Nvidia do it the AMD apologists will be posting overtime about "cheating Nvidia". When AMD do it you get all the Nvidia apologists trolling the forums claiming "AMD are cheating with rebrands". The hypocrisy is appalling in here.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18512341&page=2

Look at the above thread, and see if you recognise any Nvidia fans that are on this thread. See how they have their pitchforks ready to burn AMD at the stake here. Yet defend Nvidia over the GTX770 on the above thread.

whyscotty · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:37

Bonjour said:
My point, really, was that the prices suggested are completely out of whack and hence not trustworthy.

Sorry, I wasn't pulling you up

RavenXXX2 · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:45

ICDP said:
Look at the above thread, and see if you recognise any Nvidia fans that are on this thread. See how they have their pitchforks ready to burn AMD at the stake here. Yet defend Nvidia over the GTX770 on the above thread.

The didn't call it an 780 the card that was the replacement for the 680, here we have AMD re-badging cards with names that make them look like upgrades from the 290 cards.

Phixsator · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:48

ICDP said:
AMD and Nvidia have been rebranding for years, I think it's pathetic and I cannot defend it in any way.. It's quite pathetic that they have been doing this for so long. You can bet on the fact that when Nvidia do it the AMD apologists will be posting overtime about "cheating Nvidia". When AMD do it you get all the Nvidia apologists trolling the forums claiming "AMD are cheating with rebrands". The hypocrisy is appalling in here.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18512341&page=2

Look at the above thread, and see if you recognise any Nvidia fans that are on this thread. See how they have their pitchforks ready to burn AMD at the stake here. Yet defend Nvidia over the GTX770 on the above thread.

I have nothing against rebrands..BUT i do wish it would go down one more tier than it does currently. Example: the 680 should have become the 760 instead of the 770, leaving the 770 and 780 to be completely new cards and also pushing the performance difference that much more.. a guy can only dream right?

That said, if the 390x is a rebrand of the 290x with only a 5-10% performance boost ...well that just confirms that AMD has gone full retard and to quote Robert Downey Jr:

Digital X · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:53

Id buy a 290X if A: I could xfire with my current card, and B: I had a mobo for it.

Bonjour · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:56

whyscotty said:
Sorry, I wasn't pulling you up

Coolio and the 40 thieves.

Gregster · 14 Jun 2015 at 09:58

digitalx said:
Id buy a 290X if A: I could xfire with my current card, and B: I had a mobo for it.

Sure you meant 390X and if indeed it is a rebrand, I am sure you could with flashing a bios either way.

r7slayer · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:00

If the 390x turns out to be a rebrand pretty much with hardly any architectural improvements or any other sort of improvements except the extra 4gb of vram and slight clock boost i will be really disappointed in AMD and even more so if the fury x doesnt do some damage to nvidia high end. I will have lost a lot of faith im AMD!

Trifid · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:09

Every time I visit this thread this card changes from a rebrand to a 'omg its the most awesome thing since sliced bread with HBM on top' to a rebrand. Am I missing something?

Gregster · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:12

Trifid said:
Every time I visit this thread this card changes from a rebrand to a 'omg its the most awesome thing since sliced bread with HBM on top' to a rebrand. Am I missing something?

No, pretty much spot on.

The 390X and downwards are rebrands (and expensive if the prices are correct, which I doubt) and the Fury/X are the new cards, which will initially come with 4GB (which is fine for 1080P gaming).

sprite1275 · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:12

Won't the 3xx support DX12 though? The 2xx cards won't fully support it will they?

Gregster · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:14

sprite1275 said:
Won't the 3xx support DX12 though? The 2xx cards won't fully support it will they?

No comment

FoxEye · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:14

Trifid said:
Every time I visit this thread this card changes from a rebrand to a 'omg its the most awesome thing since sliced bread with HBM on top' to a rebrand. Am I missing something?

No point trying to make sense of it now, release is only 2 days away. We'll just wait and see.

We know Fiji (Titan equivalent, on price at least) will be new cards. They'll get HBM. The rest (300 series) are likely slightly tweaked 200 series cards, but for a lot more money. Hence the efforts to remove old stock from the channel.

If rumours prove correct, AMD are pretty much out of the fight. Total KO to nV and Intel.

FinglisHobbit · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:18

The pricing seems odd. How come a gigabyte g1 is so much cheaper than other brands. I thought the g1 cards are currently some of the most expensive.

Trifid · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:19

Gregster said:
No, pretty much spot on.

The 390X and downwards are rebrands (and expensive if the prices are correct, which I doubt) and the Fury/X are the new cards, which will initially come with 4GB (which is fine for 1080P gaming).

Ah, I know what I've missed now. 390x != Fury X...

r7slayer · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:20

sprite1275 said:
Won't the 3xx support DX12 though? The 2xx cards won't fully support it will they?

the 2xx do support dx12 your getting confused with all the that crap talk for feature levels. 2xx series support the stuff gamers are interested in thats all you need to know instead of diving deep into feature levels which is what game devs want to know about.

Phixsator · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:21

Gregster said:
No, pretty much spot on.

The 390X and downwards are rebrands (and expensive if the prices are correct, which I doubt) and the Fury/X are the new cards, which will initially come with 4GB (which is fine for 1080P gaming).

you cannot say it will only be fine for 1080p gaming as we do not know how HBM memory works in games compared to gddr5. A game may consume the same amount on both types or maybe AMD has some voodoo in place that will allow for lower memory requirements, we simply do not know at this point.. Besides 4 gigs should be enough for 1440p ultrawide in most cases going by traditional means anyway.. Also traditional ram measurement(run game, measure ram used through afterburner) is pretty faulty at best as games can usually utilize more than required if the memory is there to begin with leaving an inaccurate picture of what the real requirements are..

r7slayer · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:22

Phixsator said:
you cannot say it will only be fine for 1080p gaming as we do not know how HBM memory works in games compared to gddr5. A game may consume the same amount on both types or maybe AMD has some voodoo in place that will allow for lower memory requirements, we simply do not know at this point.. Besides 4 gigs should be enough for 1440p ultrawide in most cases going by traditional means anyway.. Also traditional ram measurement(run game, measure ram used through afterburner) is pretty faulty at best as games can usually utilize more than required if the memory is there to begin with leaving an inaccurate picture of what the real requirements are..

he didn't say it was only fine for 1080 he said 4gb will be fine meaning hes confirming the 4gb will be fine for 1080 in his opinion but not insinuating if it will be or not be fine for resolutions greater than this. I understood his post lol.

Phixsator · 14 Jun 2015 at 10:24

r7slayer said:
he didn't say it was only fine for 1080 he said 4gb will be fine meaning hes confirming the 4gb will be fine for 1080 in his opinion but not insinuating if it will be or not be fine for resolutions greater than this. I understood his post lol.

The way the post is written leaves it open to interpretation that can go either way. Anyway my point stands if nothing else than to the people keep bringing up that it wont be as good due to "only" 4 gigs..We do not know right now.