Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

triss · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:41

Boomstick777 said:
Is a shame AMD chose this naming scheme, because undedicated people (In terms of PC) might not understand at first. Although I'm sure even those guys will pick it up after launch.

For most of us here who are more informed, we can see that the flagship is in fact the Fury X and Fury Pro being the second down, meaning that the 390X is the third down, exactly the same has happened with previous generations.

I.e GTX 680 becoming GTX 770 , and HD 7970 becoming R9 280.

GTX 680 > GTX 770

GTX 780 << New flagship (At launch, before 780 Ti came along)
GTX 770

HD 7970 > R9 280

R9 290X << New flagship
R9 290
R9 280

R9 290X > R9 390X

Fury X << New flagship
Fury Pro
R9 390X

Maybe somebody should put out an illustration, to make it simple for the uninformed to understand.

The original titan was the flagship iirc when 780 was launched, Faster more vram, 780 was a cheap and still fast version

TonyTurbo78 · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:42

almost at the 300 pages mark with no sign of any solid facts...mental.

area512003 · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:42

Re the YT 390X videos he states $450 for a rebranded 290X hardly quicker than a 970!!

After tax etc in the UK that will be £420+!! WTF! :eek:

New 970's are going for £260, so £160 more for the extra bits on the 390X but hardly any quicker????? :confused:

Ouch AMD Ouch!!!

Am I missing something here??? :confused:

Boomstick777 · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:43

stulid said:
That aint right.

7970 = 280X

7950 = 280.

I missed the X lol.

stulid · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:43

TonyTurbo78 said:
almost at the 300 pages mark with no sign of any solid facts...mental.

I already solved it.

Its a 970 in a new frock, the placement of the HDMI port confirms this.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28173106&postcount=8919

RanxZy · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:44

triss said:
The original titan was the flagship iirc when 780 was launched, Faster more vram, 780 was a cheap and still fast version

Titan was a "halo" flagship, not really made for mass sales like the cut down chips.

Martini1991 · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:44

Titan came out a while after the 680, become the flagship from the 680 about a year later.
The 780 then came out, with the rest of the 7XX, the 770 being a rebranded 680.

Then the 780Ti came out which became the flagship.

Till the 9XX came out, with the 980 being a flagship of sorts, till the Titan X became and remained the flagship, then the more mainstream (lol) 980Ti came out.

DAnDan · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:45

area512003 said:
Re the YT 390X videos he states $450 for a rebranded 290X hardly quicker than a 970!!

After tax etc in the UK that will be £420+!! WTF!

New 970's are going for £260, so £160 more for the extra bits on the 390X but hardly any quicker?????

Ouch AMD Ouch!!!

Am I missing something here???

We can only hope that's not true.

IF the 390x is just a re-branded 290X then realistically it needs to be closer to £200 (somewhere between £200, and £250 tops) to really make a place for itself.

Boomstick777 · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:45

RanxZy said:
Yep that cringeworthy video of the rebrand unboxing pretty much shows how the misinformed can be completely unaware it's really a two year old chip. There are people that will literally go in to best buy, see "new" on the shelf and pick it up. Sad but true.

Yeah it's almost as bad as people seeing 4GB on that 970 box and thinking that whole 4GB will run at the same speed.

So everyone agrees that 're-branding' is a common thing, and it's the semantics of the naming that people are so upset / confused about.

I'm sure in time, at least after the cards have actually launched people will be less confused.

RanxZy · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:46

area512003 said:
Re the YT 390X videos he states $450 for a rebranded 290X hardly quicker than a 970!!

After tax etc in the UK that will be £420+!! WTF!

Early adopter tax (of an ancient chip of course)

ubersonic · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:47

stulid said:
You notice how they put the HDMI port in the same place as the 970s and 980s.

its not an AMD chip at all, Sapphire have jumped ship to the green side

The PCB looks almost identical to the Sapphire 290X PCB.

Not like the GTX980ti PCB.

Assuming you were being serious anyway, hard to tell in this thread

Bonjour · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:49

slick rick said:
I don't think the 290x did, two DVI's a DP and a HDMI I think?

That's what I've had on the 3 290s I've owned.

Jono8 · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:50

area512003 said:
Re the YT 390X videos he states $450 for a rebranded 290X hardly quicker than a 970!!

After tax etc in the UK that will be £420+!! WTF!

New 970's are going for £260, so £160 more for the extra bits on the 390X but hardly any quicker?????

Ouch AMD Ouch!!!

Am I missing something here???

970's have been as cheap as £230 recently.

If the 390x is just an 8gb 290x and they release it at about ~£400 I will be seriously worried about what AMD are thinking.

We need good competition, not madmen running the only rival Nvidia has into the ground.

It absolutely has to be £300 tops.

Martini1991 · 14 Jun 2015 at 22:53

Jono8 said:
970's have been as cheap as £230 recently.

If the 390x is just an 8gb 290x and they release it at about ~£400 I will be seriously worried about what AMD are thinking.

We need good competition, not madmen running the only rival Nvidia has into the ground.

It absolutely has to be £300 tops.

How do you think that'll go down when 4GB 290X's start at 220

?

area512003 · 14 Jun 2015 at 23:03

RanxZy said:
Early adopter tax (of an ancient chip of course)

Gonna have to be a drop of £100+ in the UK for the 390X RRP with that little peformance increase over the 970??

DazQ87 · 14 Jun 2015 at 23:04

I honestly dont think AMD are that stupid, surely the 390X must feature some an improved architecture or more cores or something rather than just a pure rebrand?

area512003 · 14 Jun 2015 at 23:05

Jono8 said:
It absolutely has to be £300 tops.

+1

ubersonic · 14 Jun 2015 at 23:14

DazQ87 said:
I honestly dont think AMD are that stupid, surely the 390X must feature some an improved architecture or more cores or something rather than just a pure rebrand?

You have to remember, the entire HD8000 series was an OEM only re-brand of the HD7000 series which AMD only did because Dell/etc were asking for it because they knew their customers wouldn't ask questions. AMD may well have taken note of this example that the average customer is an idiot.

David Bisset · 14 Jun 2015 at 23:14

DazQ87 said:
I honestly dont think AMD are that stupid, surely the 390X must feature some an improved architecture or more cores or something rather than just a pure rebrand?

Given they seem to be naming it Grenada I still expect so yes, they've kept the same names for rebrands in the past so it suggests something else has changed. We shall see though! You just never know...

ihatelag · 14 Jun 2015 at 23:20

If that Euros price leak is real, I hope that we don't get Euro to GBP conversion but instead get USD to GBP + 20% (and + Ocuk margin), which will be much cheaper
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-eu-pricing-leaked-sapphire-msi-gigabyte-graphics-cards/