Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

He's right though. This 390x is more power hungry. It's going to be a hotter card spared the improved cooling. At least the 8800GT was faster and priced underneath the GTX at the same time of its reign. Making it seem like a damn good card. It was also a single slot cooler.

Compared to this kettle of fish..more than a year later, a ton of cards under the competitions belt and it's exactly the same card! LOL.

All rebrands are uninteresting, some are just a lot more senseless than others

The 8800GT and 8800GTS 512MB cards were rebranded against better AMD cards like the HD4830,HD4850,HD5770 and so on.

Also,hotness argument is just getting boring - the 9000 series Nvidia cards were rated for well over 100C. My mates single slot 9800GT could run very hot and it was in a SFF PC,so it was running well into the 90s for YEARS.

HD4870 cards ran hot and still were fine. Had mates with hot running GTX470 cards which lasted for years. The Titan X runs quite hot. Some of the pre-overclocked GTX970 cards could run hot. I have used SFF PCs since 2005 - all my cards have run hotter than average and have been fine for years.

As long as the card does not throttle and the capacitors are good quality solid jobbies,the cards will last for years.

Nobody is ditching their Haswell CPUs since they run hot. Most owners of Haswell CPUs in the world are using stock coolers,meaning they are run into the 80s and 90s quite easily if stressed.

Heat production is another thing - but people seem to be interchangeably using waste heat production and hotness when they are NOT the same things.

 

[Phixsator]

The 8800GT and 8800GTS 512MB cards were rebranded against better AMD cards like the HD4830,HD4850,HD5770 and so on.

Also,hotness argument is just getting boring - the 9000 series Nvidia cards were rated for well over 100C. My mates single slot 9800GT could run very hot and it was in a SFF PC,so it was running well into the 90s for YEARS.

HD4870 cards ran hot and still were fine. Had mates with hot running GTX470 cards which lasted for years. The Titan X runs quite hot. Some of the pre-overclocked GTX970 cards could run hot. I have used SFF PCs since 2005 - all my cards have run hotter than average and have been fine for years.

As long as the card does not throttle and the capacitors are good quality solid jobbies,the cards will last for years.

Nobody is ditching their Haswell CPUs since they run hot. Most owners of Haswell CPUs in the world are using stock coolers,meaning they are run into the 80s and 90s quite easily if stressed.

Heat production is another thing - but people seem to be interchangeably using waste heat production and hotness when they are NOT the same things.

Couldnt agree more. We've had so many hot cards from both sides that it makes no sense just to use that as an argument against purchase. The only time heat is a real issue is if it causes throttling or if it causes whatever cooler on it to make more noise than sense dictates. Like the powercolor 4870x2, what a hot and extremely noisy card that was.

 

[ubersonic]

Also,hotness argument is just getting boring - the 9000 series Nvidia cards were rated for well over 100C. My mates single slot 9800GT could run very hot and it was in a SFF PC,so it was running well into the 90s for YEARS.

The exhaust from my 9800-GX2 was so hot that it stripped the paint of the skirting board behind the tower

 

[Simon Belmont]

One more day until we all laugh. AMD had all the hype before with a huge let down. I don't expect it any different this time either.

 

[SimBy]

As to 4gb of memory, try and run Watch Dogs, GTA V or Shadow of Mordor maxed @2160p and see what happens.

Would be kinda silly to market Fury for 4K and fail at the biggest PC title this year, don't you think? So no, I don't expect memory will be an issue for Fury.

 

[Rilot]

Right guys.
Strikes and suspensions have been handed out to those having several posts deleted. Trolling each other will not be tolerated.

 

[easyrider]

One more day until we all laugh. AMD had all the hype before with a huge let down. I don't expect it any different this time either.

I mean this is trolling...Come on Fury I'm sure will rock the boat somewhat.

 

[mmj_uk]

Couldnt agree more. We've had so many hot cards from both sides that it makes no sense just to use that as an argument against purchase. The only time heat is a real issue is if it causes throttling or if it causes whatever cooler on it to make more noise than sense dictates. Like the powercolor 4870x2, what a hot and extremely noisy card that was.

"waste heat production" is a huge problem with AMD hardware though.

Lots of people simply don't want components that kick insane amounts of excess heat into the case, it's okay talking about about aftermarket 290X as silent but if you need case fans and a more aggressive CPU fan to compensate then it's a bit misleading.

I agree that the temperature readout is mostly meaningless unless throttling comes into play (but that was a big issue with reference 290X), Intel CPU's run 30C hotter than the AMD equivalents but most of the heat is contained within the die, if you measured the amount of heat being exhausted into the case it wouldn't even be a close contest between Haswell and AMD FX.

Heat is an electrical components worst enemy, something like only a 5C increase in ambient temperature can knock months if not years of the overall lifespan so it matters when you have half a dozen highly expensive components all confined in a close space together.

 

[kylew_is_back]

Fury is going to be a disaster of epic proportions, it is going to be stupidly expensive, performance just above 980 (maybe for the X version a bit higher), only 4GB vram, insane power consummation and heat, not to mention that driver support is going to stop right after the summer because AMD probably will file for bankruptcy.

 

[Silent_Scone]

The 8800GT and 8800GTS 512MB cards were rebranded against better AMD cards like the HD4830,HD4850,HD5770 and so on.

And so on? The 5770 didn't come till 2 years later. The 8880GT was primarily set up against the 2900XT and 1950XTX. TITAN X is a 250w part, power consumption on the 390X is considerably higher, for less performance.

This is where arguments arise. Lack of facts and sound logical reasoning! Thankfully it's difficult to argue further with such logic so I will leave you to your devices.

 

[Dis86]

I don't quite get the problem if the performance is just above the 980? Better performance than one of the best and most popular cards available, at the right price is a good thing!

 

[Zethor]

If the rumours are true and if you have the 4 yearold 7970 there's not much of a point to upgrade at the moment. I can't believe that in 4 long years basically released just 2 'new' cards, the 290/290x and now the Fury.

 

[sprite1275]

Not sure if this has been posted , sorry if it has , it's the update from the bloke that was shifting the 390x and thought this was the high end card.

, again sorry if it's been posted , 390x vs 970

Mmmm not sure what to think.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I don't quite get the problem if the performance is just above the 980? Better performance than one of the best and most popular cards available, at the right price is a good thing!

The only issue is it's coming up to nearly a year since the 980 was released and with nVidia being the more popular choice anyway AMD are going to struggle selling a card that offers similar performance to 980 unless it is a fair bit cheaper. The problem then though is nVidia can just lower prices if they feel the need to.

I'm surprised the only new cards are going to be the Fury cards, £500+ cards are a small percentage of users and I can't see the rebrands winning much market share back.

 

[SimBy]

"waste heat production" is a huge problem with AMD hardware though.

Lots of people simply don't want components that kick insane amounts of excess heat into the case, it's okay talking about about aftermarket 290X as silent but if you need case fans and a more aggressive CPU fan to compensate then it's a bit misleading.

I agree that the temperature readout is mostly meaningless unless throttling comes into play (but that was a big issue with reference 290X), Intel CPU'srun 30C hotter than the AMD equivalents but most of the heat is contained within the die, if you measured the amount of heat being exhausted into the case it wouldn't even be a close contest between Haswell and AMD FX.

Heat is an electrical components worst enemy, something like only a 5C increase in ambient temperature can knock months if not years of the overall lifespan so it matters when you have half a dozen highly expensive components all confined in a close space together.

Heat contained within the die?! 5C knocking years of components?

Would love to see some concrete evidence for that. Not to mention you contradict yourself.

 

[MasterOC]

Heat contained within the die?! 5C knocking years of components?

Would love to see some concrete evidence for that. Not to mention you contradict yourself.

Me to .

 

[ubersonic]

Right guys.
Strikes and suspensions have been handed out to those having several posts deleted. Trolling each other will not be tolerated.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the fanboys and the tyranny of trolls. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is Rilot when I lay my vengeance upon thee!

Well, now we can get back to the topic at hand, a lot of people seem to be getting very hung up on 4GB not being enough for 4K, a thing to remember though is that 4K accounts for a ridiculous low portion of the market, over two thirds of the worlds computers run 1080p or lower anyway. So by saving money on the VRAM but making it super fast, AMD seem to be gearing the Fury for dominance at the resolutions most people game at, which from a business pov looks like a good plan to me.

 

[AntiBS]

And so on? The 5770 didn't come till 2 years later. The 8880GT was primarily set up against the 2900XT and 1950XTX. TITAN X is a 250w part, power consumption on the 390X is considerably higher, for less performance.

This is where arguments arise. Lack of facts and sound logical reasoning! Thankfully it's difficult to argue further with such logic so I will leave you to your devices.

The X1950 XTX was released in October 17, 2006

The 8800 GT was released in October 29, 2007.

The GeForce 7000 series was competition for Radeon 1000 series cards.
The GeForce 8000 series was competition for Radeon 2000 series cards.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Whats funny is that all my SFF PCs since 2005 have run hot when compared to full sized desktops,and I keep them for three to four years at least,before upgrading,and graphics cards upto two to three years.

I think I had only one graphics card fail since 2003 and one motherboard which had an issues after 4 and a half years,and that motherboard was a hot running 975X in a Shuttle which lasted 55 months before the SATA started having issues.

DAT TEMPERATURE THO!

 

[Mal X]

Fury is going to be a disaster of epic proportions, it is going to be stupidly expensive, performance just above 980 (maybe for the X version a bit higher), only 4GB vram, insane power consummation and heat, not to mention that driver support is going to stop right after the summer because AMD probably will file for bankruptcy.

you're doing this all wrong, think Dual Card only and not until october, save yourself the Heartache !!!